rhrtlog: 08/13/08 22:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:02 test rhrtlog: 08/13/08 22:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:04 test #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:04 You beat me :/ #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:05 shirts #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:05 should i buy them? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:05 oh, and I guess, first post #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:05 the quicksilver 34hc seems to be a popular motor: http://www.quicksilvercontrols.com/PD/PRJ/IGVC/IGVC.html #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:05 >$900 per, though. #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:06 QuickSilver has supported many universities in this exciting competition. SInce 2004, QuickSilver has been on every 1st place vehicle. #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:06 so, who wants to get on that `supported' list... #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:07 hmmm #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:07 us, i think #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:11 i'm just not feeling the enthusiasm #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:11 What's wrong with the ones we already have? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:11 uh, they're pure shit #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:12 how about we fix our controllers first #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:12 jboticsource++ #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:13 cause we wouldnt need those controllers with steppers maybe? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:13 cptobvious++ #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:13 i might just be making stuff up #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:13 Well, what about using the current coffee table as a test platform? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:14 i'm not going to give up with the current controllers, but isn't it worth a try to attempt to get some of these? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:14 yea #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:14 Oh, sure. shadghost: 08/13/08 22:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:15 and with the current controllers, we're going to need to spend at least $120 on encoders #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:15 uh.... #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:15 ... #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:15 well, i guess i shouldn't be amazed that people have too much time on their hands. #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:16 nor be amazed at the stalker mentality #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:16 Well, we stalk him all the time. #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:16 and not the cool kind of stalker, like the ones in crazy areas of russia, either #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:17 mmm... tarkovsky #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:17 anyway, i'm going to work on the controllers once i get back to rose #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:18 Hokay. And who's going to prostrate themselves for better motors? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:18 jboticsource #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:19 if we decide to go the stepper route, I may be able to get cheap or free drivers #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:19 i was planning on getting us donations #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:19 that just take a step and direction as input #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:19 TheBrickWahl: quicksilver has a controller for that motor #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:19 a rather nice one, too... i'm reading the datasheet #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:19 the motors apparently have a 12000cpr encoder in them as well... #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:19 hrm, my cat really likes the digikey paper packaging #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:20 hell, *i* like digikey's packaging #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:20 kleinjt: http://www.comics.com/comics/chickweed/archive/images/chickweed2008081131000.jpg #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:20 I've been wanting to give Blazeix that for days. #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:23 another reason you should all be hoping to get those motors and controllers: it will stop me from putting everything on a CAN bus #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:23 kleinjt: Opine on the CAN bus, please. #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:23 tommost: overcomplicated #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:24 tommost: evil #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:24 tommost: crazy #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:24 naturally, i think it's a great idea #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:24 Won't you try to put everything else on it anyway? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:24 oh, and most of the actual standards, especially the so-called `can-open' costs money #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:25 possibly, i think it'd be useful for something #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:25 s #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:27 auchter: What license is CAN under? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:28 no idea if it even is. the hardware layer is pretty open, but the higher-level protocols all seem proprietary #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:30 ok #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:30 so i am about to order shirts #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:30 Shouldn't there be an e-mail first? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:30 i just need to press the charge it button and it is all good #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:30 meh, there are enough ppl here #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:30 andy_ircsrv's roommate, among others, may be interested. #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:30 So we're each contributing $10? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:31 5 i think #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:31 i threw alex on there too #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:32 Maybe we should get a few extra? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:32 could be good #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:33 how about this shady looking site: http://custom-t-shirt-design-services-review.toptenreviews.com/ #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:34 it has a very descriptive URL TheBrickWahl1: 08/13/08 22:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:42 don't forget about incoming freshman, I know of at least one that wants to join #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:43 good point tommost: 08/13/08 22:49 >< KICK #rhrt rhrtlog : tommost rhrtlog: 08/13/08 22:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:52 i dont really want to hand out shirts to ppl for at least a quarter #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:52 as in freshman #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:52 which freshman wants to join? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:52 if he wants to join now, we can get him a shirt #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:54 yeah we definitely shouldnt just give freshman shirts, thats how I got my sweet astronomy club shirt without doing anything TheBrickWahl: 08/13/08 22:54 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) cptobvious: 08/13/08 22:55 >< QUIT : "Lost terminal" #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:57 Cole Jacobs expressed interest on the Facebook group for the Rose-Hulman Class of 2012 on the FIRST robotics discussion board #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:57 so what size does this guy wear #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:57 i will get him one #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:58 I have no idea kleinjt: 08/13/08 22:58 >< QUIT : "If I don't get to keep the hat when I leave, I'd quit if I wasn't already leaving" #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:59 well he is a large now #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:59 ACTION wants a shirt #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:59 oh, i thought u were a bot :p #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:59 what size? #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:59 ACTION goes to uaf #rhrt: 08/13/08 22:59 jboticsource: He doesn't go to Rose. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:00 oh where does he go? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:00 UAF. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:00 but that does not mean i do not want one #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:00 Search Results #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:00 University of Alaska Fairbanks #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:00 google rules all #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:00 what connection do u have with us? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:01 i stay in rhlug #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:01 and went to ms and hs with jon #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:01 ok #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:01 and just made a soda can stove #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:02 (o i am going for EE) #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:02 Oooo... you should transfer to Rose and join RT to make auchter happy. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:02 rt?\ #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:02 Um, your in our channel. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:03 /topic #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:03 robitics team #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:03 ACTION was on the west robotic team #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:04 also would you rather bulid a robot or a satalite to go into orbit? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:04 soooooooooo you dont go to our school..yet....should we get him one? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:04 orbit #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:04 def #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:04 jboticsource: No. Have you been paying attention? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:04 yes and i am confused #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:05 shadghost: Well, I can actually build the robot, and it's cheaper, so the robot. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:05 latter this semester the srp up here is going to start the design phase of a satalite #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:05 once the rocket paylode goes up #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:05 srp? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:05 student rocket project #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:05 Cool. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:06 ACTION will probaly be one of the leads by the time it goes up #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:06 we also work with nasa #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:07 we have a few people in the lower 48 at nasa right now #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:07 those pop can stoves are awesome #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:08 once the testing is done they fly back, then winter, and we lanch out of poker flats #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:08 "Poker Flat Research Range is the world's only scientific rocket launching facility owned by a university." #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:08 http://www.pfrr.alaska.edu/ #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:09 nasa is considerably less awesome than the pop can stove. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:09 i need to test this one #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:10 ACTION needs to find his fule #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:10 fuel #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:10 fal;sdfjka;skldfj; #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:10 but re: t-shirt #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:10 i think it would just be funny walking arround with one up here #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:11 (in the ee department #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:11 lol #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:12 "so you went to rose-hulman" "nope, never been there" #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:14 ok so #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:14 i added a large for the new guy #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:14 the freshman #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:14 I suggest that you send out an e-mail about t-shirts. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:14 why #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:14 the majority of us are here #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:15 Aren't there a few mechanicals left? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:15 just connor #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:15 but i dont think that he is attending us next year #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:15 And Colin. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:15 i included alex and nic #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:16 i was under the impression that colin wont be with us later #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:16 either #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:17 I don't know. Whatever. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:17 We'll probably order more later in the year. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:17 exactly #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:17 if they attend, then we can get them shirts when we rake in more freshman #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:18 Yup. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:23 you should put the design on cafepress #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:24 I think you can buy it from that site. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:24 that site? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:24 The one linked to. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:25 I think we both came in after the link was posted #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:25 http://www.customink.com/designs/rev4/8936984-1834056/retrieve #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:26 who do we want as our new advisor? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:26 Who's available? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:26 dont know #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:26 but i asked dr.mellor if he would be intrested #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:27 he siad that it is in the relm of possibilites #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:27 Let's wait until the school year resumes. shadghos1: 08/13/08 23:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 08/13/08 23:28 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. shadghos1: 08/13/08 23:28 >< NICK : shadghost #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:29 sorry i did not get the link shadghos1: 08/13/08 23:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:29 http://www.customink.com/designs/rev4/8936984-1834056/retrieve #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:29 the back and front should be diffrent TheBrickWahl1: 08/13/08 23:30 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:30 they r ordered #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:32 oooooooooo i can add my name to the back #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:34 The minimum order quantity for this item is 6. You can either increase your quantity or use #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:34 =< #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:34 looks like none for me #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:34 Sorry. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:36 they are ordered alredy? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:36 ys #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:36 yes #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:36 so i can not add one and have jon bring it up over winter break #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:37 r u serious? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:37 yes =P #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:37 custom ink has 2 sides #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:37 a mass order side #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:37 and a one-off side #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:37 we could rebuid it on the one off side #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:37 of thier buissness #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:38 we may be able to even recall the shirt on teh one off side #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:40 the email that it is associated with is kinziejh@rose-hulman.edu #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:42 btw tommost the can stove worked #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:43 Er, okay. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:45 lol #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:45 i can change the quanty for your order #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:46 ? #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:46 i typed in your email #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:46 click on final rev #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:46 yes #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:46 and then it brought me the the changeing quanty #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:46 i was on the singl order side when i started #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:46 ic #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:49 i will finish the ordoer 2marrow #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:49 i need to sleep #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:49 night jboticsource: 08/13/08 23:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:49 but #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:49 he is gone #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:49 ACTION was about to be a wise ass and say it is only 7:50 #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:50 shadghos-- #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:50 tommost: most irc cliants have tab completion #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:50 I did... shadghos1 threw it off. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:51 wow #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:51 i only have one irc cliant open #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:51 Yeah, I guess the connection hasn't timed out yet. #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:51 no look up tommost: 08/13/08 23:51 >< KICK #rhrt shadghos1 : tommost #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:51 19:29 -!- shadghost [n=shadghos@63-245.trans.uaf.edu] has quit [Nick collision from services.] #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:52 i joined as shadghos1, /msg nickserv ghost shadghost ********** #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:52 then /nick shadghost #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:52 so shadghos1 still being here is confusing #rhrt: 08/13/08 23:53 ACTION has things to do jboticsource: 08/14/08 09:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/14/08 13:35 i just got us better embroidered shirts for 150 flat #rhrt: 08/14/08 13:35 through my friends uncle who does emboridery. i know him from my days back in FIRST when he did our shirts #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:00 awesome, how about for the lug poolo ;) #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:00 s/oo/o andy753421: 08/14/08 14:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:11 hey, there's actually a fair amount of people in here #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:12 yeah, five of us , actually #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:12 haha, i guess that's true #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:12 looks like more on the list ;) #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:13 so where does rhrtlog go? #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:14 no idea, tom's the one who set it up (i'm guessing) #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:14 also, iait doesn't want us running nameservers anymore #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:14 its ip is on rt-black #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:16 we might have to use their silly infoblox software, but I don't know since the robotics team isn't using a subdomain and they'd have to create a new zone #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:30 auchter: yea sure np. just send me the logo. #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:31 and we can get some lug stuff #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:31 someone with skillz should probably make the logo #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:31 what is it ? #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:31 tommost seems to be the most graphically inclined here, so i nominate him #rhrt: 08/14/08 14:31 uh, we don't have one #rhrt: 08/14/08 15:13 make one TheBrickWahl: 08/14/08 15:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/14/08 15:28 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/14/08 15:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 08/14/08 15:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/14/08 15:47 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Mishtal: 08/14/08 16:09 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 08/14/08 16:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 08/14/08 16:27 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/14/08 16:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/14/08 16:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl1: 08/14/08 17:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 08/14/08 17:34 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) TheBrickWahl: 08/14/08 17:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 08/14/08 17:58 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl1: 08/14/08 18:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/14/08 18:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl2: 08/14/08 18:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl3: 08/14/08 18:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/14/08 18:19 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/14/08 18:23 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl1: 08/14/08 18:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 08/14/08 18:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/14/08 18:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl2: 08/14/08 18:34 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl1: 08/14/08 18:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl3: 08/14/08 18:47 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 08/14/08 18:54 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 08/14/08 18:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 08/14/08 19:12 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 08/14/08 20:53 yo! #rhrt: 08/14/08 20:59 robots with biological brains: http://blogs.zdnet.com/emergingtech/?p=1009 jboticsource: 08/14/08 21:41 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/14/08 21:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/14/08 21:54 speaking of profs, we should as the hoove to be our advisor #rhrt: 08/14/08 21:55 hoover? #rhrt: 08/14/08 21:55 i had him in catapult #rhrt: 08/14/08 21:55 oh, in all his creepy glory: http://fafnir.rose-hulman.edu/~hoover/ #rhrt: 08/14/08 21:55 did not like him at all #rhrt: 08/14/08 21:55 mellor #rhrt: 08/14/08 21:55 or boutell all the way #rhrt: 08/14/08 21:55 i was joking #rhrt: 08/14/08 21:56 that picture still cracks me up though #rhrt: 08/14/08 21:56 i cant tell on irc TheBrickWahl1: 08/14/08 21:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 08/14/08 22:01 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 08/14/08 22:13 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 08/14/08 22:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 08/15/08 01:33 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 08/15/08 01:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy_ircsrv: 08/15/08 02:00 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/15/08 06:27 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/15/08 08:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/15/08 08:15 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/15/08 09:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/15/08 09:46 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/15/08 10:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/15/08 10:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 08/15/08 12:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 08/15/08 12:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsourc1: 08/15/08 12:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/15/08 12:40 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsourc1: 08/15/08 15:44 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 08/15/08 16:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 08/15/08 20:58 >< QUIT : "Lost terminal" kleinjt: 08/15/08 23:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753422: 08/15/08 23:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/15/08 23:46 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/16/08 00:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/16/08 00:20 just got back from speed skating #rhrt: 08/16/08 00:21 and boy are my arms tired shadghost: 08/16/08 02:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 08/16/08 02:36 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) shadghost: 08/16/08 02:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 08/16/08 02:56 >< PART #rhrt : andy753422: 08/16/08 03:37 >< QUIT : "Leaving." shadghost: 08/16/08 03:42 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) shadghost: 08/16/08 03:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/16/08 04:25 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost_aorist: 08/16/08 04:25 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost_aorist: 08/16/08 04:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/16/08 04:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt irc.freenode.net: 08/16/08 04:25 >< MODE #rhrt +o tommost_aorist : jboticsource: 08/16/08 12:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 08/16/08 12:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 08/16/08 12:50 >< QUIT : "Lost terminal" jboticsource: 08/16/08 12:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/16/08 12:59 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 08/16/08 13:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/16/08 13:51 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 08/16/08 15:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/16/08 15:50 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 08/16/08 16:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/16/08 18:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 08/16/08 18:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/16/08 19:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost_aorist: 08/16/08 21:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 08/16/08 22:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsourc1: 08/17/08 00:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/17/08 00:44 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 08/17/08 01:51 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsourc1: 08/17/08 10:53 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 08/17/08 14:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 08/17/08 14:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/17/08 14:20 what if we did the darpa grand challenge? #rhrt: 08/17/08 14:21 and what if we used challenge X' vehicle? jboticsourc1: 08/17/08 15:06 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/17/08 20:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/17/08 22:36 how do we access the log? #rhrt: 08/17/08 22:36 Umm... #rhrt: 08/17/08 22:37 I haven't set that up yet. #rhrt: 08/17/08 22:37 oh ic collinjc: 08/17/08 22:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/17/08 22:45 Somehow I don't seem to be a mod anymore. #rhrt: 08/17/08 22:45 I think that it was my Percopo move. #rhrt: 08/17/08 22:46 how would that affect that? #rhrt: 08/17/08 22:46 Both of my computers were shut off. #rhrt: 08/17/08 22:46 can u regain the position? #rhrt: 08/17/08 22:46 auchter can mod me. auchter: 08/17/08 22:57 >< MODE #rhrt +o tommost : collinjc: 08/17/08 23:26 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/18/08 00:06 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/18/08 00:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_aorist: 08/18/08 00:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 08/18/08 00:19 >< MODE #rhrt +o tommost_aorist : #rhrt: 08/18/08 00:20 auchter: Thanks. jboticsource: 08/18/08 00:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 08/18/08 00:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/18/08 00:24 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 08/18/08 01:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 08/18/08 01:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 08/18/08 01:13 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/18/08 01:16 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/18/08 01:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/18/08 01:27 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/18/08 01:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/18/08 02:37 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/18/08 02:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/18/08 02:40 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/18/08 02:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/18/08 03:14 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 08/18/08 04:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 08/18/08 05:00 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. collinjc: 08/18/08 05:18 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." tommost: 08/18/08 06:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/18/08 10:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/18/08 17:08 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/18/08 18:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/18/08 19:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/18/08 20:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." shadghos1: 08/19/08 00:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghos1: 08/19/08 00:11 >< NICK : shadghost jboticsource: 08/19/08 00:12 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/19/08 00:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/19/08 01:07 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/19/08 01:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/19/08 02:25 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/19/08 02:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/19/08 02:32 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/19/08 02:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/19/08 07:01 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/19/08 08:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/19/08 09:07 >< QUIT : Read error: 113 (No route to host) jboticsource: 08/19/08 09:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/19/08 09:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/19/08 09:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/19/08 10:12 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 08/19/08 10:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 08/19/08 10:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 08/19/08 10:25 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/19/08 10:33 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/19/08 11:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/19/08 12:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/19/08 12:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/19/08 18:00 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/19/08 18:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_xpvm: 08/19/08 19:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/19/08 21:15 >< PART #rhrt : tommost_xpvm: 08/19/08 22:37 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection auchter: 08/19/08 23:41 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 08/19/08 23:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt irc.freenode.net: 08/19/08 23:41 >< MODE #rhrt +o auchter : tommost: 08/20/08 00:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/20/08 09:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 08/20/08 11:38 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/20/08 14:16 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/20/08 14:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/20/08 14:31 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 08/20/08 15:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 08/20/08 16:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/20/08 16:26 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) shadghost: 08/20/08 21:53 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net shadghost: 08/20/08 21:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 08/21/08 00:17 >< PART #rhrt : shadghost: 08/21/08 01:45 >< QUIT : "ubuntu.cs.uaf.edu is up now!!!! thankes dev" jboticsource: 08/21/08 08:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/21/08 08:01 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsourc1: 08/21/08 09:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 08/21/08 09:00 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsourc1: 08/21/08 09:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/21/08 09:27 tommost_aorist: is the log working yet? jboticsourc1: 08/21/08 10:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/21/08 10:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/21/08 13:19 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/21/08 13:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 08/21/08 14:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:11 TheBrickWahl: that is nice chassis #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:17 is it what you had in mind? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:18 close enough #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:18 what I didn't include was a post for the camera #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:18 i am going 2 need to learn how to weld #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:18 me too #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:19 i wonder how we do that #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:19 if we jsut do it ourselfs #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:19 our if we can have someone teach us #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:19 Tom said you guys had talked about having a waterproof outer shell for the whole robot #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:20 is that still the plan? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:20 it would be nice #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:20 but i would rather get the drive train etc running first #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:20 if we can we will #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:20 we we cant we cant #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:21 then maybe we should make the second tier a full octagon like the bottom #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:21 maybe #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:21 it would make the shell much simpler #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:21 yes it woudl #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:21 we could have indivigual hinges on each flap #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:21 and like reach in and do stuff #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:22 i sent out an email to sick #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:23 today to try to get us a lidar #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:23 awesome #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:24 what's going on with motors? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:24 are we getting new ones? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:24 nothing at the moment #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:24 we need new ones #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:24 or secondary ones #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:25 and corrsponding gear boxes #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:26 i have not started on that endevor yet #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:26 i am dork #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:27 i just drank some water and was like "wow this water is watery" #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:27 wow #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:27 yea i know #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:27 what has this world come to? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:27 watery water? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:28 I don't know if you ever solved the camera stabilization problem #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:28 but I have an idea for it #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:28 i had an idea, i would def not say solved #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:28 what is your idea? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:29 do you know anything about the Steadicam that professional videographers use? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:29 with the pendulum weight thing? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:29 yeah, it has a pendulum #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:29 http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/steadicam2.htm #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:29 it has some good diagrams #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:30 that is pretty baddass #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:31 i was thinking of an active stabilization system #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:31 how does that work? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:31 that used servos to actuate the angle of the camera in real time #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:32 I was wondering if my idea would be too complex, but its definitely not compared with that #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:32 so when it goes over a bump, the servos move teh camera so that it is level #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:32 it is complex in a different way #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:32 it is a controls problem #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:32 yeah #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:32 it would also give us a way to look around #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:32 without moving the wheel base #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:33 the robot also needs some sweet paint #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:33 and a bit Rose R #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:34 i would like an active system. i think that it will be doable as the terrain that the bot is moving over is not that severe #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:34 so the controls can prob be decently simple #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:35 we have the microstrain so we know where the bot is and where down is #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:36 I'm just thinking I've spent the last few days trying to get servos to work #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:36 and we've been having lots of problems #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:36 it is a pulse with thing #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:37 i am pretty sure that we can run the pwm off of serial directly #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:38 yeah, but the problem we've been having is that if we use more than one with the same controller and power supply we get interference from somewhere and none of them do what they're supposed to #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:38 they work great individually #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:39 maybe we could control the passive system with an active system #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:39 so we have the arm etc #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:39 but we can tune a damper #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:39 in real time #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:40 that could work #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:40 that would be much easier to control #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:40 as it could be liner #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:40 we have a lot to discuss when we start having meetings #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:40 yes.....\ #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:41 we should have some sensor that senses the camera shake #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:42 that way we know if it is safe to take a picture #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:42 the cool thing about the steadicam is that you can adjust it for the weight of the camera and as long as it is adjusted correctly, there is absolutely no camera movement #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:42 the film club has one #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:42 we may want to check that out #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:42 its in the basement of Percopo #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:43 or steal it lol #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:43 I have a key to the cabinet but not the room, hopefully its open #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:43 let me go check now #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:43 any idea how much it costs? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:48 room's locked #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:48 ok #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:48 they're not cheap #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:48 i bet #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:49 we may not have the ability to make a good one #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:49 i dont know #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:49 i was thinking of something more odd #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:49 lets say that we have a camera on a sick #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:49 and the sick is on a 2axis gimball near the camera on the top #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:50 on teh other end of a stick is a weight #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:50 now #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:50 that also has extendable fins on it #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:50 so that we can dampen it wtih the air #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:50 meh just an idea #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:50 what I was thinking was that we could make just one segment of the steadicam arm #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:51 which shouldn't be very hard to do in the machine shop #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:51 maybe #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:51 i would want to get that CNC ed #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:51 just cuz i am like that #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:51 then on the end would be that gimble gadget you bought last year #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:52 the eye ring thing? #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:52 yeah #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:52 with a shaft through it #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:52 it is in my backpack lol #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:52 and a weight etc #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:52 yea #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:52 i would realy like adjustable fluid shocks #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:53 that would be really cool #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:53 and we could mount the servos to those #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:58 i need to go #rhrt: 08/21/08 15:58 i will be back shortly jboticsource: 08/21/08 15:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/21/08 16:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/21/08 16:14 back #rhrt: 08/21/08 16:23 anyway #rhrt: 08/21/08 16:23 i was thinking about treads #rhrt: 08/21/08 16:44 TheBrickWahl: treads? #rhrt: 08/21/08 17:25 steadicam sounds like the way to go, at least initially #rhrt: 08/21/08 17:25 we could play around with an active solution later, but i don't think we would gain much #rhrt: 08/21/08 17:25 the field of vision of the camera is probably sufficient, so the ability to move it wouldn't net us much #rhrt: 08/21/08 17:26 plus, you'd have to take the current position of the camera relative to the robot into consideration when doing path planning, which adds another bit of complexity, etc. #rhrt: 08/21/08 17:27 also, i think that one of the first issues of Make magazine (before they went completely downhill) had a DIY steadicam article auchter: 08/21/08 19:21 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 08/21/08 19:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt irc.freenode.net: 08/21/08 19:21 >< MODE #rhrt +o auchter : jboticsource: 08/21/08 20:22 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/21/08 20:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 08/21/08 21:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/21/08 22:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/21/08 23:36 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 08/21/08 23:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 08/21/08 23:55 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 08/22/08 00:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/22/08 00:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/22/08 00:36 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 08/22/08 00:58 >< QUIT : "auchter: if I come back and you're running vista there's going to be hell to pay" kleinjt: 08/22/08 01:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 08/22/08 01:08 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 08/22/08 01:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/22/08 06:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/22/08 07:31 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/22/08 08:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 08/22/08 08:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 08/22/08 08:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 08/22/08 08:36 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/22/08 08:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/22/08 08:47 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsourc1: 08/22/08 08:52 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/22/08 10:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/22/08 10:05 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/22/08 14:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/22/08 16:27 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl1: 08/22/08 17:25 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 08/22/08 17:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/22/08 17:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/22/08 18:26 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 08/22/08 18:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 08/22/08 19:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/22/08 19:31 tommost, i just recieved an LCD monitor i ordered from UPS. do you happen to have the conf file you supplied jaybotics with? collinjc: 08/22/08 19:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/22/08 19:32 Sure. Mishtal: 08/22/08 19:38 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 08/22/08 19:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/22/08 19:47 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net collinjc: 08/22/08 19:47 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net shadghost: 08/22/08 19:47 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 08/22/08 19:47 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 08/22/08 19:47 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 08/22/08 19:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/22/08 19:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/22/08 19:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 08/22/08 19:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 08/22/08 19:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt irc.freenode.net: 08/22/08 19:49 >< MODE #rhrt +o auchter : Mishtal: 08/22/08 20:31 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 08/22/08 21:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/22/08 21:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:56 I need email addresses and CM numbers for all the officers #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:56 mosttw@rose... CM2371 #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:56 er, i mean phone numbers, and cm numbers #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:56 I was wondering... #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:57 This is what Facebook is for. #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:57 well, i'm lazy, so if you don't give me a phone number you're not getting access to the lab door #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:58 (also, auchter doesn't use facebook) #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:59 also, does anyone know the room number where we're at now? #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:59 You want my room phone number? #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:59 i don't know #rhrt: 08/22/08 21:59 i have to fill out a form, you can make one up for all i care #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:00 872-6145 #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:00 My room number. Might as well be make up for all the likely took of me answering it. #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:04 s/make/made/ #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:40 andy753421: CM412, phone number will be emailed to you #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:40 ACTION glares at shadghost  #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:41 auchter: You could kick him, you know. #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:41 auchter: I wrote down your cell phone number (i think) #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:42 ah, ok. #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:42 i hope that's alright, the form was due in -8 days so I was trying to get it done soonish #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:42 yeah, i sent you my cell number anyway, i forgot that you had it #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:43 also, does anyone know the status of the HIP4081a's? were all of them fried? (i.e., should i order some more today?) #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:43 There's one left. #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:44 Of course, it didn't make the motor controller work when we put it in. #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:44 alright, then i'll hold off on placing an order until we meet #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:44 i'm rather inclined to blame kleinjt for that #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:45 if he was using the arduino's analogWrite() function, that had a frequency of <500Hz. that's a potentionally large issue with those motor controllers #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:45 s/po.* /potentially/ #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:45 er, that was a very bad regex #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:45 s/po\w+ /potentially/ #rhrt: 08/22/08 22:45 s/po\S*/ andy753421: 08/22/08 23:02 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 08/22/08 23:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 08/22/08 23:42 Jay says shirts ship Monday. #rhrt: 08/22/08 23:43 that sounds like a good thing #rhrt: 08/22/08 23:44 Indeed. tommost_aorist: 08/22/08 23:47 >< MODE #rhrt +o tommost : tommost_aorist: 08/22/08 23:47 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/23/08 00:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/23/08 01:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:05 shirts will be shipped monday #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:06 so i've heard #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:06 now we need to get going on lug shirts... #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:07 ACTION wants a lug shirt #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:07 if u get one it will be in the second batch #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:08 jboticsource: your in chi? or the haute? #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:08 haute #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:08 just got here 2night #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:08 kay #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:08 we will order a second batch if need be if we get lots of ppl #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:09 in other news ubuntu stopped hybernating and suspending properly #rhrt: 08/23/08 01:09 so i am about to redo my ubu jboticsource: 08/23/08 01:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/23/08 01:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 08/23/08 02:15 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 08/23/08 02:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/23/08 02:48 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/23/08 04:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt rhrtlog3243: 08/25/08 00:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/25/08 01:04 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753422: 08/25/08 02:05 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 08/25/08 02:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/25/08 02:57 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/25/08 02:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/25/08 03:07 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/25/08 03:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 08/25/08 04:28 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 08/25/08 07:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/25/08 07:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/25/08 08:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 08/25/08 10:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 08/25/08 11:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 08/25/08 11:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl2: 08/25/08 11:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 08/25/08 11:58 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 08/25/08 11:59 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 08/25/08 13:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/25/08 13:28 The photos are still copying... this is ridiculous. #rhrt: 08/25/08 14:10 RIDICULOUS #rhrt: 08/25/08 15:42 andy753421: Are you going to do the DNS config, or should I? #rhrt: 08/25/08 15:43 My Internet connection is currently totally saturated by the photos I'm transferring. #rhrt: 08/25/08 16:17 tommost: i'll take care of it #rhrt: 08/25/08 16:20 Okay. #rhrt: 08/25/08 16:20 My photos have finished uploading. #rhrt: 08/25/08 16:25 hey, someone off campus see if rhitrobotics.org is working #rhrt: 08/25/08 16:26 andy753421: works #rhrt: 08/25/08 16:26 Awesome. Here too. collinjc: 08/25/08 17:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/25/08 18:33 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/25/08 18:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/25/08 18:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/25/08 19:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 08/25/08 20:54 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 08/25/08 21:23 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 08/25/08 21:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/25/08 21:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/25/08 22:10 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/25/08 22:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/25/08 23:04 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl2: 08/25/08 23:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 08/25/08 23:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:03 so we need a new adviser for the robotics club #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:04 in case any of you haven't heard, Dr. Padgett isn't going to be our adviser next year #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:04 so.. if there are any newer faculty member that you like, talk to them and/or let me know #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:04 or old faculty member too, but their more likely to be busy #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:05 jboticsource: did you get funding request turned in? #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:05 er, reimbursements #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:08 personally, i think another advisor from the ECE department would be good, but one that's a bit more involved #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:09 unfortunately, i really don't know many profs in that department (ironically enough...) #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:09 agreed, although a CS prof would be nice as well #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:09 i think the mechanical team is pretty good off right now though #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:11 jboticsource was talking to J.P. and Dr. Boutell. I don't know how far that may have gone. #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:13 i don't see that going very far, both seem rather busy #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:13 i would have to agree with auchter, i don't really know of anyone in the CS department that would be good and isn't really busy #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:14 are we getting anyone new this year? i don't think so, but i'm not sure #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:14 wait, maybe we are.. #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:14 they were certaining interviewing some people last year #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:14 er, having them give presentations and such #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:14 yea, i remember that.. time to check the schedule lookup page #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:15 i don't see anyone new.. #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:15 yeah, me neither. #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:15 what's mutchler up to? #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:15 he like robotics it seems #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:16 i don't know, dave and cary might be somewhat free since they're both just coming back from sabbatical #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:16 although cary is the Dept head so he's probably busy #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:17 yeah, just look at muchtler's page, two things related to robotics onit #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:17 yea.. i don't know if he's so much into robotics, or kids and legos ;) #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:18 awesome, he also has a section dedicated to sandals #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:20 yeah, i was looking at that. #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:20 Link? #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:20 Is cs.rose-hulman.edu not available off campus? #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:21 http://fafnir.rose-hulman.edu/~mutchler/sandals/ #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:21 tommost: the website should be, but you can't get to any cs. computers from off campus #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:21 why fafnir? #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:21 uh, i copied the link? #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:22 and apparently IAIT's sucking more than usual #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:22 haha, where did you copy it from? #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:22 vimperator's address thing #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:22 er, but what lead you to fafnir.rose-hulman.edu in the first place #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:22 www.rose-hulman.edu #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:23 /~mutchler #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:23 does that redirect for you or something? #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:23 You get the same thing from www. No redirect. #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:24 Strangely, I didn't get it the first time I tried to visit that URL. Mishtal: 08/26/08 01:02 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/26/08 01:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/26/08 01:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/26/08 01:45 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 08/26/08 01:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/26/08 02:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 08/26/08 02:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/26/08 02:47 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/26/08 03:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/26/08 07:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/26/08 07:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/26/08 08:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/26/08 11:41 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/26/08 11:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/26/08 11:53 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 08/26/08 11:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/26/08 12:15 >< QUIT : "Leaving." auchter: 08/26/08 12:16 >< QUIT : "leaving" auchter: 08/26/08 12:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/26/08 12:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/26/08 12:58 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/26/08 13:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/26/08 15:31 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net jboticsource: 08/26/08 15:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/26/08 16:31 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 08/26/08 17:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/26/08 17:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/26/08 18:34 >< NICK : andy753421\ andy753421\: 08/26/08 18:34 >< NICK : andy753421 jboticsource: 08/26/08 19:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/26/08 22:37 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 08/26/08 23:27 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 08/26/08 23:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/26/08 23:31 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/27/08 00:13 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 08/27/08 00:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt1: 08/27/08 00:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 08/27/08 00:57 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt1: 08/27/08 01:07 >< NICK : kleinjt kleinjt: 08/27/08 01:08 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 08/27/08 01:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:29 how do we access the log? #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:29 Um... #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:30 I still haven't set that up. #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:30 oh btw u asked me a question last night #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:30 what was it? #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:30 Let me check. #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:31 It's not in the log. #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:31 u said my name lastnight #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:32 YOU SAID MY NAME #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:32 I wasn't asking you a question. #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:32 #rhrt: 08/26/08 00:11 jboticsource was talking to J.P. and Dr. Boutell. I don't know how far that may have gone. #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:33 You can access the logs by sshing into the server. They are stored at /var/lib/irclog/logs #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:33 J.P was a maybe #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:34 and i am talking with Boutell and Berry of ECE about getting credit for working on the robotics team #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:35 ooh, credit would be extermely nice, though i really doubt it would happen #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:35 you would be suprized.... #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:35 he sounds all for it #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:36 but other than it being nice for us, we could get more people to work for us #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:36 and get more done #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:36 yeah, i'd get a ton more done if i got credit for it, as it is really low priority for me when i have other stuff to do #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:37 things shouldn't be as bad this year, though #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:37 ACTION laughs at the sophomores #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:37 :/ #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:37 yay con aps #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:37 it's actually not as bad as anyone says #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:38 other than being completely irrelevant #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:38 yay no con apps #rhrt: 08/27/08 01:39 the homework is just physics with absurd formatting requirements kleinjt: 08/27/08 03:19 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 08/27/08 07:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/27/08 07:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/27/08 09:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/27/08 13:58 good news #rhrt: 08/27/08 13:58 i just talked to Dr. Boutell #rhrt: 08/27/08 13:58 he really likes the idea of getting credit for working on the team #rhrt: 08/27/08 13:59 he siad most likely winter #rhrt: 08/27/08 13:59 nice #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:00 Awesome. #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:00 wost case spring #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:00 but prob winter #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:00 and shirts are in #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:00 i have them here in my apt #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:00 Awesome. Post a photo! #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:01 we also *may* be able go get some more funding #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:01 if we ride this robotics certificate outf #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:01 cuz we are out there with rose's name #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:01 so yea, we are cooking #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:02 i will also be at this freshman orientation talk #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:02 and boutell will direct ppl to me in his speech about our team #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:02 What day is that? #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:02 saturday #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:03 I think that andy753421 is on campus. #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:03 that would be good so he can cover software #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:03 what about me being on campus? #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:04 this saturday there is a csse freshman orientation at 6:30 in F225 #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:04 dr boutell will let us be there so we can get freshman #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:05 the shirts are absolutely beautiful #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:09 and they are cotton #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:10 Photo! #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:15 so I'm catching up on all of this, what's the deal with getting credit? #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:16 I'm also on campus if you need help with anything #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:16 this winter we will be able to get credit for working on the team #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:17 would it just be generic elective credit? #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:17 elective i think #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:17 also where do u want the picturs #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:18 technical elective? #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:18 Your webspace? #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:18 dammit now i need to boot into windows #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:18 just a sec jboticsource: 08/27/08 14:18 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/27/08 14:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:22 jboticsource: why did you need to reboot? #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:23 i dont have afs set up in linux #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:23 or vpn #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:23 or kerberos #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:24 All you need is sshfs. #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:24 it is not set up #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:24 yet #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:24 Or even just the built-in Gnome SFTP support. #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:24 there's nothing to setup #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:24 tommost: that is pure evil and should never be suggested #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:24 i dont know what i am doing with it #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:25 auchter: I think that it goes through FUSE now, so it may suck less. #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:25 sshfs kinziejh@addiator.rose-hulman.edu: /mountpoint #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:25 tommost: oh, ok #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:30 it is uploading #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:35 ... 6 minutes later... #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:36 5 min left #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:36 i took the pics with a 7 megapixel camera #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:44 ...8 minutes after you said 5 minutes... #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:44 windows transfer lied #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:44 It always does. #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:45 scp lies considerably less #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:45 Nautilus actually does a pretty good job. I have no idea how Microsoft managed to make Explorer so screwed up. #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:46 ACTION mutters about not having a keyboard shortcut to create a folder #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:46 http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~kinziejh/shirts.zip #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:46 the pictures dont do the shirts justice #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:47 Now's the part where you ssh into addiator to unzip that. #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:47 ? #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:47 download it and look at it #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:49 the shirts look rather nice #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:49 ah, the glorious bathrooms at vq. #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:50 they are glorious #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:50 Sweet. #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:50 looks nice #rhrt: 08/27/08 14:51 shirts++ andy753421: 08/27/08 14:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/27/08 15:01 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 08/27/08 15:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/27/08 15:12 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/27/08 15:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/27/08 15:16 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/27/08 15:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/27/08 15:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/27/08 17:10 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 08/27/08 17:22 i am washing all the shirts for you guys so that they are ready to wear #rhrt: 08/27/08 17:39 Okay. collinjc: 08/27/08 17:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/27/08 18:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 08/27/08 19:32 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost_aorist: 08/27/08 20:22 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net #rhrt: 08/27/08 20:32 now that's service. andy753421: 08/27/08 21:00 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost_aorist: 08/27/08 21:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/27/08 21:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/27/08 21:12 so who is on campus and ordered a shirt #rhrt: 08/27/08 21:26 i am going to put all of the shirts in the robotics room #rhrt: 08/27/08 21:26 if you want one, go there as we all have access #rhrt: 08/27/08 21:26 and it is on campus #rhrt: 08/27/08 21:37 auchter: are there RJ45 plugs in the robotics lab that I could steal one of? #rhrt: 08/27/08 21:54 I'm pretty sure that there aren't; the team has some cables that need new terminators. #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:01 andy753421: there should be in one of those suitcase-divider-tray-things #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:02 Oh, the electronics team *would* hide them like that. ;) #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:06 suitcase-divider-tray-things? #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:06 remember the things that exploded all over? #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:06 ... #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:07 so they're grey and clear-ish #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:07 they have a handle #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:07 ah, now we're getting somewhere :P #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:07 are about 0.5mx0.25mx0.125m #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:08 they have handles #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:08 oh, if they're not in there, they're in the divider drawer things #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:09 actually, i may have been hallucinating about the existence of the previously described containers #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:09 so we're back to step 1? Mishtal: 08/27/08 22:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:10 no, the drawer things definitely do exist #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:10 they slide #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:10 i looked in some of those but didn't see any #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:10 into the grey drawer holders #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:11 are you referring the drawers that are on the coat rack? #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:11 we have a coat rack? #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:12 yea, it's to the right of the old electronics bench (next to the bookshelf) #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:13 maybe. i'm apparently not remembering things as well as i did when i remembered them #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 here, i've drawn a picture: #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 +----------+ |-- +----------+ #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 | | | B | | #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 | | | /S \| | #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 -----+----------+ |-- \ /+----------+ #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 | E | | C | | #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 | | | | | #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 +----------+ |-- +----------+ #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 -----++ +--- +-+----------+ #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 | \ /| B| | | | #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 | \ / | | | | | #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 + +-------------------------- #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 B = Bookshelf #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 C = Coat rack #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 E = Electronics bench #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:21 S = Funny thing with a shoe on the bottom of it #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:22 is this an overhead view? #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:22 yes #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:23 try under the electronics bench on the right side #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:23 ok.. #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:23 out of curiosity, before I walk over, how sure are you that they actually exist? #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:24 ~40% #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:24 they may actually be rj11 #rhrt: 08/27/08 22:25 Well, I was thinking that I'd give the robotics team logview proportional text, but apparently that is not to be. collinjc: 08/27/08 23:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/28/08 00:15 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 08/28/08 00:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 08/28/08 01:31 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 08/28/08 01:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 08/28/08 01:45 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 08/28/08 01:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy_plan9: 08/28/08 02:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 08/28/08 03:46 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 08/28/08 04:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/28/08 07:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/28/08 07:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/28/08 09:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:19 we need to decide on a first meeting time #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:19 Yes. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:19 and have a pow wow about what we plan to do this year #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:20 tuesday 9/9 ? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:22 sounds good #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:22 how about 7pm? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:23 that day? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:23 hm.. what time did we have our meetings last year? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:23 8:00 #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:24 8pm , but i imagine that this one could be long, so i thought we could bump this one an hour earlier #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:24 ok #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:24 yea.. that might be confusing though.. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:24 depends on the email that tom sends out :p #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:24 well i was thinking if people write down 7:00 on a calendar #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:25 that it would stick? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:25 yea #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:25 i am down for 8, 7 was just an idea #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:26 we also need to do training session for new team member #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:26 s #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:27 hm.. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:27 we could decide that at the first meeting? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:27 how about having an exec type meeting over the weekend? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:28 that way Tuesday can be focused towards recruits #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:29 would be down for that, i wanted to have an all team meeting though #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:29 hm.. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:29 Yes, I am in favor of an exec meeting. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:30 how about all team meeting, at first and then anyone not interested in recruitment can leave? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:30 ok #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:30 (also, project manager would have to stick around) #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:30 that could work #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:32 I imagine not everyone is going to come to the weekend meeting though, since it's the first weekend back and all #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:33 I think that the exec meeting would be for the officers. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:33 (And team leaders, but they're the same people.) #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:33 officers, that's the word I was looking for ;) #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:34 and wear your shirts to teh meeting #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:34 so we can be spiritfull #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:35 date/time? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:36 Sunday afternoon? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:36 for the exec meeting? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:37 sunday 9/7 3pm? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:38 http://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/Meetings/2008-09-07 #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:39 Oh, my beautiful lowercase URLs. :'( #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:40 I'm pretty sure trac prefers CammelCase.. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:40 unfortunately.. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:40 Yeah. I added a nasty warning to the CamelCase page, actually. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:41 And I disabled automatic linking of CamelCase words. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:41 time to make eggs and bacon #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:41 ough, why? #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:41 way to break conventions.. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:41 Because it's extremely annoying when writing about software. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:41 I wish that I could disable underscore emphasis. It's extremely irritating when writing about Python. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:43 I need to set up HTTPS. #rhrt: 08/28/08 15:43 And SVN. #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:35 oh btw, how many of you guys use google calendar? tommost: 08/28/08 16:36 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:39 i use ical #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:40 what is that? #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:41 what my point is is that i made a public calendar for the mechanical team #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:42 so that teh team can see in advance when meetings will be #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:42 i also have admin meetings on there 2 #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:42 ical is a calendar format that can be imported by google calendar, mac whatever, and outlook #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:42 that is pretty cool #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:43 i don't remember if google canendar export ical or not #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:43 i can export to .ics #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:44 it's better if they provide a link to the ics #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:45 yep, there's a ical address for it #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:45 in that case, go for it #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:48 we have a gmail address don't we? #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:48 or was that just an idea at one poing? #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:48 *t #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:49 good question. i think that we ment to. but i dont think it materized #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:49 alright #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:54 i think that kevin may have done that #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:54 or maybe tom #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:55 i saw nick and brian's rubics cube solver last night #rhrt: 08/28/08 16:55 looks pretty slick, should bag us some freshies collinjc: 08/28/08 17:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 08/28/08 17:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/28/08 18:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/28/08 22:57 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/28/08 23:49 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 08/28/08 23:52 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 08/28/08 23:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 08/28/08 23:53 >< NICK : tommost collinjc: 08/29/08 06:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/29/08 07:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 08/29/08 08:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/29/08 13:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 08/29/08 13:47 >< QUIT : Client Quit TheBrickWahl: 08/29/08 14:39 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) TheBrickWahl: 08/29/08 14:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/29/08 15:45 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/29/08 15:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/29/08 19:05 tommost: I tried to set up slapd on the robotics server to run over ssl #rhrt: 08/29/08 19:05 but it failed, and I blame ubuntu #rhrt: 08/29/08 19:07 i installed sshd on an ubuntu box today. each time i tried to log in, it took >1 minute for the "enter password" prompt to appear. from two different computers. so i deleted ubuntu and installed plan 9. andy753421: 08/29/08 19:36 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 08/29/08 19:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/29/08 19:42 andy753421: Why does it need to run over SSL right now? auchter: 08/29/08 21:02 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 08/29/08 21:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/29/08 21:03 i wanted to connect to it from a different computer #rhrt: 08/29/08 21:04 also, we need ssl on the http auth page TheBrickWahl: 08/29/08 21:15 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 08/29/08 21:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/29/08 21:29 anyone know why I can't get into the robotics room anymore? #rhrt: 08/29/08 21:30 my card worked last week but didn't work today #rhrt: 08/29/08 21:30 do they expire each year? #rhrt: 08/29/08 21:31 TheBrickWahl: yea jboticsource: 08/29/08 21:46 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 08/29/08 22:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy_plan9: 08/29/08 23:37 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) kleinjt: 08/30/08 00:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:03 woot. I'm back from the north slope #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:04 auchter: actually, palin isn't that bad. she is disliked by ted stevens and the oil companies, and actually works decently with democrats in the state house to get a gas pipeline built #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:05 she isn't really corrupt either, and has uncovered corruption of a few republicans kleinjt1: 08/30/08 00:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:13 er.. wrong channel #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:13 but I guess this works #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:14 It's weird though; she has so little experience. #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:16 I think she has an associates degree #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:16 Oh, never mind, she got a real one #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:17 we need #rhpolitics #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:18 I meant political experience. She's been governor for ~2 years, and before that the state legislature (?). All this in a tiny state. McCain is shooting his own argument in the face. #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:18 auchter: hey, you asked about it on #rhlug, I just responded on the wrong tab #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:18 no, i think that was andy #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:18 er.. whoops, you are correct #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:18 tommost: just because it is a small state doesn't mean it isn't good experience. she has had plenty fighting off oil companies #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:20 I didn't argue that it wasn't (not that I wouldn't); I'm saying that McCain has made that argument about Obama, and now he's gone and picked someone with the same problem. #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:20 and she wants to get rid of environmental protections for polar bears. I wasn't allowed to walk freely around the endicott artifical island because of polar bears, so this is a personal issue for me. #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:20 It's curious. #rhrt: 08/30/08 00:21 s/artifical/artificial kleinjt: 08/30/08 00:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt1: 08/30/08 00:36 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt1: 08/30/08 00:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 08/30/08 00:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/30/08 01:01 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt1: 08/30/08 01:03 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 08/30/08 01:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 08/30/08 05:01 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsourc1: 08/30/08 05:47 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 08/30/08 05:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/30/08 06:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 08/30/08 07:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/30/08 17:10 computer science room f225 at 6:30 to get freshies #rhrt: 08/30/08 17:11 i will be there #rhrt: 08/30/08 17:11 others are welcome #rhrt: 08/30/08 17:15 throw in a good word about lug, too #rhrt: 08/30/08 17:15 sure why not #rhrt: 08/30/08 17:16 tommost: are you in town? #rhrt: 08/30/08 17:31 indeed, i'd go but i'm picking up my friend from the airport #rhrt: 08/30/08 17:46 jboticsource: Nope. #rhrt: 08/30/08 17:54 i got mishtal to go with me jboticsource: 08/30/08 18:06 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/30/08 18:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/30/08 18:51 what room does the team work in? #rhrt: 08/30/08 18:51 M.... #rhrt: 08/30/08 18:53 this is kinda critical... #rhrt: 08/30/08 18:55 M233? #rhrt: 08/30/08 18:56 jboticsource: M233. jboticsource: 08/30/08 18:58 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/30/08 18:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/30/08 18:58 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 08/30/08 19:30 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 08/30/08 21:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 08/30/08 23:58 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 08/31/08 00:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/31/08 02:10 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 08/31/08 02:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 08/31/08 10:48 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 08/31/08 11:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/31/08 11:47 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommos1: 08/31/08 15:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 08/31/08 15:00 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 08/31/08 15:01 >< NICK : tommost jboticsource: 08/31/08 15:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:10 jboticsource: how'd the recruitment go? #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:11 very well #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:11 we got like 2-3 freshman that would like to join #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:11 and do stuff #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:11 that second part in particular sounds good #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:13 they are ece #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:13 all of them i think #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:13 All three? #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:13 some may be ece + cs #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:14 Oh, good. #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:17 good indeed #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:21 they will be coming to the tuesday 9/9 #rhrt: 08/31/08 17:21 meeting jboticsource: 08/31/08 17:23 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 08/31/08 17:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 08/31/08 19:28 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 08/31/08 19:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:02 andy753421: So, what's the plan for software development this year? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:02 i haven't thought to much about that yet #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:04 Well, then, a more immediate question: how should the SVN repositor{y,ies} be set up? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:04 did we not get the old one backed up? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:05 /recorevered? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:05 I think it's somewhere in lost+found. #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:05 ok #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:05 well let's see if we can keep that for now #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:05 If you ssh into rt-black you can find all the backups in rtadmin's home directory. #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:06 give me a link to the electronics repo when you recover/redo it #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:07 auchter: did you have/use a electronics repo last year? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:07 i think we had one, i didn't use it though #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:07 but i would like to this year, for obvious reasons #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:08 ok, i think we talked about this before but I don't remember #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:08 were we going to use a single repo, or separate ones for each team? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:08 I was more thinking that we could just create a single new repository and check the contents of the old one in. #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:09 That way Trac could track everyone's progress. #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:09 i think a single repository would be nice #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:09 ok, single it is #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:09 then we could tag a certain version that is consistent across hardware and software... #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:09 we should try to use the software repo though, that we we can keep the history #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:11 Oh, cool, I just found the old ones. #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:12 lost+found sucks a lot less than CHKDSK's output. #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:15 What user should own the repositories? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:27 svn:svn #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:27 chgrp g+w repo, then put apache in the svn group #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:28 at least that's how I do it #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:29 Why not just put it all in www-data, since there isn't already an svn group and all modification will be going through apache anyway? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:30 whatever #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:30 i've never heard of www-data, must be an ubuntu thing #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:30 Yeah, it's the Apache user/group. #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:31 It's a Debianism. #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:31 mkay #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:33 what happens if someone uses svn+ssh to check something in? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:34 Don't we need to run a daemon for that? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:34 svn+ssh sucks due to file locking issues #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:34 tommost: no, that's where the ssh comes in #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:34 alright then #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:34 it's basically file:// but with ssh #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:34 How would you have write permission to the repository, then? #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:35 the svn group #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:35 Ah. #rhrt: 08/31/08 20:37 the way I do it is to make a group for each type of data (svn, htdocs, etc) and then a user for each daemon/person that way you can give any daemon/person access to whatever resources they need jboticsource: 08/31/08 21:55 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 08/31/08 22:03 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 08/31/08 22:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/31/08 22:03 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." jboticsource: 08/31/08 22:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 08/31/08 22:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 08/31/08 22:55 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 08/31/08 22:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 08/31/08 22:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:05 andy753421: Am I on the list of people with access to the room? #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:06 heh #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:06 :D #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:07 So, what needs to happen for Nick to be on that list? #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:11 yea, i think you all head that.. #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:11 you can get a sheet of paper from the lady in myers and get added to the door #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:11 yeah, the we're a proper subset of #rhlug #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:11 s/the// #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:12 No, TheBrickWahl isn't in #rhlug. #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:12 oh wait, we're not. #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:12 TheBrickWahl: curse you #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:12 He's gone to try my ID. #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:13 andy753421: I was on the list last year, do I have to redo that each year? #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:13 yes, everyone does #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:13 right now i don't think anyone has access #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:13 I just contacted Dan Moore to see what's going on with that #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:14 TheBrickWahl: Did my ID not work? #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:15 we're going to try your ID now jboticsource: 08/31/08 23:21 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:32 Tom's ID doesn't work #rhrt: 08/31/08 23:32 :'( jboticsource: 08/31/08 23:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt