tommost: 10/01/08 00:01 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/01/08 00:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/01/08 03:15 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/01/08 03:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/01/08 05:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/01/08 05:47 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/01/08 07:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/01/08 08:53 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/01/08 09:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/01/08 09:38 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/01/08 09:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/01/08 10:14 yay for trac tickets. collinjc: 10/01/08 10:23 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 10/01/08 10:48 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 10/01/08 10:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/01/08 11:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/01/08 12:16 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/01/08 12:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/01/08 12:26 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." TheBrickWahl: 10/01/08 13:19 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/01/08 13:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/01/08 13:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/01/08 13:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/01/08 13:52 >< QUIT : Client Quit kleinjt: 10/01/08 14:07 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/01/08 14:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/01/08 14:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 10/01/08 14:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/01/08 14:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 10/01/08 15:00 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net kleinjt: 10/01/08 15:00 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net TheBrickWahl1: 10/01/08 15:00 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 10/01/08 15:00 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net TheBrickWahl1: 10/01/08 15:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/01/08 15:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/01/08 15:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt auchter: 10/01/08 15:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 10/01/08 15:05 >< QUIT : "leaving" shadghost: 10/01/08 15:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/01/08 15:25 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/01/08 15:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/01/08 15:46 auchter, kleinjt: What's the status of the motor controller code? #rhrt: 10/01/08 15:50 I haven't had time to look at it, and I won't until friday night. #rhrt: 10/01/08 15:58 i'll be able to look at it tomorrow evening #rhrt: 10/01/08 15:58 I was hoping that it would be working for tonight's meeting... #rhrt: 10/01/08 15:59 well, there's absolutely no way i'll be able to work on it today #rhrt: 10/01/08 15:59 i'm already not doing half of my homework tonight because i have other things to do #rhrt: 10/01/08 16:00 :( #rhrt: 10/01/08 16:00 What's not working with it right now? TheBrickWahl1: 10/01/08 16:14 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/01/08 16:15 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/01/08 16:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/01/08 16:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/01/08 16:45 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/01/08 17:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/01/08 17:42 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/01/08 18:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/01/08 18:14 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 10/01/08 18:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/01/08 19:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 10/01/08 19:30 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/01/08 19:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/01/08 20:11 andy753421: neither nathan nor i will be going to the meeting tonight. im exausted from earlier this morning, so im going to bed soon #rhrt: 10/01/08 20:13 alright andy753421: 10/01/08 20:56 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/01/08 21:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/01/08 21:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/01/08 21:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:51 auchter: it doesn't really matter if you think the code is 'good' or 'testing' or whatever, svn is still a good place to keep it #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:52 i'd rather have broken code than no code at all #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:52 well, actually, pwm.c is for something unrelated to robotics #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:52 it just so happens that it was the first directory i went to #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:52 alright, i added the motorcontroller.c file form klein then #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:52 ok #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:53 i'll work on his code tomorrow afternoon #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:53 ok, i'm going to stop by too because i'm interested in how the electronics stuff works #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:53 ok #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:53 by afternoon do you mean before or after lug? #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:54 i'll be in the lab around 4:15 until lug #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:54 alright #rhrt: 10/01/08 22:54 i'll probably be there after lug, too, unless it takes me hours to fix my windows installation which broke itself andy753421: 10/01/08 22:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/01/08 23:07 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 10/01/08 23:19 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/01/08 23:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/01/08 23:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 00:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 00:57 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/02/08 05:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/02/08 06:07 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/02/08 06:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/02/08 07:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/02/08 08:00 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 10/02/08 08:17 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/02/08 09:31 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost: 10/02/08 09:45 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 10/02/08 10:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/02/08 10:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/02/08 10:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/02/08 10:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 11:39 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/02/08 11:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/02/08 11:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:00 does the robot move? #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:01 No, auchter's going to work on the code for the motor controller controller this afternoon. #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:01 After that it should. #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:01 cool #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:02 jboticsource: are you missing a paintball mask? #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:02 yes i am #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:02 that is my mask #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:02 Darcie on Percopo 3 has it #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:02 i ditched it before i went out to the fire #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:03 ty #rhrt: 10/02/08 12:10 the amusing part is that many ppl have been like jay go get your mask lol. they just knew! jboticsource: 10/02/08 12:11 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/02/08 13:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/02/08 13:09 auchter, kleinjt: Do you think that the motor controllers will be finished today? #rhrt: 10/02/08 13:10 possibly. are you going to be around today so that if i make changes to jon's code i could test them? #rhrt: 10/02/08 13:10 Sure. #rhrt: 10/02/08 13:10 or at least show me how to run the disturbing shell that the robot apparently has #rhrt: 10/02/08 13:11 I'll be working on comparch; I can do that in the lab. #rhrt: 10/02/08 13:11 ok #rhrt: 10/02/08 13:12 When do you need me there? #rhrt: 10/02/08 13:12 after LUG. #rhrt: 10/02/08 13:13 Okay. kleinjt: 10/02/08 13:19 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/02/08 13:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 13:29 >< QUIT : Client Quit jboticsource: 10/02/08 13:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 13:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/02/08 13:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 13:55 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/02/08 14:02 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/02/08 14:20 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 10/02/08 14:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/02/08 14:44 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 10/02/08 15:04 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/02/08 15:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/02/08 15:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/02/08 16:11 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 10/02/08 16:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/02/08 16:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/02/08 16:35 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 10/02/08 16:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) #rhrt: 10/02/08 16:57 tommost: this is stupid: ``data = chr(addr) + chr(speed) + chr(func) + chr(checksum)'' #rhrt: 10/02/08 17:04 auchter: Glad you think so. #rhrt: 10/02/08 17:05 Time for LUG. tommost: 10/02/08 17:05 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 10/02/08 17:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 17:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/02/08 17:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/02/08 17:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 17:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/02/08 17:49 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/02/08 18:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 18:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/02/08 18:02 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/02/08 18:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/02/08 18:25 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 10/02/08 18:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/02/08 18:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/02/08 18:58 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 10/02/08 19:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/02/08 19:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/02/08 19:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/02/08 19:49 >< QUIT : Client Quit TheBrickWahl: 10/02/08 20:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/02/08 20:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/02/08 20:29 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/02/08 20:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/02/08 20:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 10/02/08 20:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/02/08 20:51 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/02/08 20:52 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/02/08 21:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 21:12 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc_eee: 10/02/08 22:51 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/02/08 22:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/02/08 22:55 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/02/08 23:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy7534211: 10/02/08 23:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/02/08 23:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/02/08 23:49 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:20 jboticsource: remember to call companies tomorrow for motors and what not #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:20 (says conrad) #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:27 auchter: What's the status of the motor controllers? TheBrickWahl: 10/03/08 01:30 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:33 the motor controllers work fine, the controller less so #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:33 kleinjt: do you want to take out the limiting code for now and flash the avr? #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:33 since tom already has limiting code #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:34 also, i ran into a problem with avrdude complaining about an invalid address when trying to program that code #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:35 Is it just the software that needs to be worked on, or is the MCC hardware incomplete? #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:36 the hardware just needs a crystal and two caps added (i don't know where the crystals are, jon might) #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:36 oh, and a connector to go to the serial port of the computer, but that's minor #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:36 Will you be working on it after class tomorrow? #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:37 yes, i meant to get more done today #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:37 I have time from 4:15 to 5:30 tomorrow. I'll be there. #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:37 i'll probably be over there around 1:35 or so #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:39 auchter: IIRC, we don't have any crystals. I'll bring some. taking out the limiting code is fine, but how I had it written, the only reason the speed changed was because of the limiting code #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:39 kleinjt: i'll look at it again tomorrow, i think i almost had it fixed #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:40 i've got to get this damn prelab done though #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:40 I'm free after 4:15, I'll be in the lab, unless I forget the crystals, then I'll be fetching crystals.. #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:40 well, there's a crystal on the old mcc #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:40 we could just desolder that #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:40 desoldering crystals scares me #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:40 we can try #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:41 .. only 3 more con aps problems to do tonight... #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:41 heh, i feel your pain #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:41 this lab is entirely unclear #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:42 ...only one disco assignment left to do... #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:43 awesome, I just remembered tomorrow is a friday, I don't have class until 11:55, I can pull an all nighter without screwing up my sleep too much #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:44 s/tomorrow/today #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:44 tommost: this is why you take disco with profs that don't require you to turn in homework ;) #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:44 No, there's only one assignment per week. If I didn't have to turn it in I wouldn't do it; that wouldn't work out well. #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:45 Plus it's an easy assignment, or would be if I weren't so tired. #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:58 kleinjt: most obvious error i see in your code is that templ and tempr are 8-bit values. #rhrt: 10/03/08 01:59 you're overflowing them #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:05 auchter: yes, is appears that is a problem. #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:06 http://freya.phire.org/files/mcc.c #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:06 i'll clean it up tomorrow, but i think that will work. #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:09 There is much magic in that file. #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:09 there's much jumping around and unclear names as well #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:11 What is this OCR1A thing? And ICR1? #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:11 you made my enums global :( #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:12 you had them duplicated, that's stupid #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:12 OCR1A is a register which has the duty cycle of the 1A channel pwm #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:12 if you change something, you'd need to change it in two places #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:13 that's not all i'll end up changing tomorrow, either (and if i knew how to do an evil grin i would) #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:14 but i digress and now i sleep #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:14 ok,I may be doing further programming in avr assembly so you can't fix my code :P tommost: 10/03/08 02:23 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." #rhrt: 10/03/08 02:26 I mean, uh.. thanks. kleinjt: 10/03/08 02:40 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 10/03/08 02:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/03/08 03:12 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 10/03/08 04:34 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 10/03/08 05:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/03/08 06:27 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc_eee: 10/03/08 06:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy7534211: 10/03/08 07:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc_eee: 10/03/08 08:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/03/08 09:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/03/08 09:05 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/03/08 09:35 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 10/03/08 09:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/03/08 10:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/03/08 11:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/03/08 11:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/03/08 11:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/03/08 11:44 >< QUIT : Client Quit TheBrickWahl: 10/03/08 12:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/03/08 12:00 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/03/08 12:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/03/08 12:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/03/08 12:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/03/08 12:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/03/08 13:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/03/08 13:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/03/08 13:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/03/08 14:19 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 10/03/08 14:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/03/08 14:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/03/08 14:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/03/08 14:44 tommost: i'm in the lab and i rewrote the motor controller controller code, i'm ready to test it with your code tommost: 10/03/08 14:47 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost: 10/03/08 14:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/03/08 14:57 tommost: since you timed out before, i don't know if you saw this: #rhrt: 10/03/08 14:57 18:45 < auchter> tommost: i'm in the lab and i rewrote the motor controller controller code, i'm ready to test it with your code #rhrt: 10/03/08 14:58 Oh, yes, I saw that and responded. #rhrt: 10/03/08 14:58 I'll be there after I'm done TAing. #rhrt: 10/03/08 14:59 ok, i'll work on the board for the motor controller controller in the meantime (though jon needs to bring some parts) andy753421: 10/03/08 15:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:42 http://rafb.net/p/N9RyOG45.html #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:42 i blame python #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:43 auchter: emerge pyserial #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:43 alright, thanks #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:45 http://rafb.net/p/11plTh95.html andy753421: 10/03/08 15:47 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:57 ACTION pokes tommost  #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:57 ACTION groans #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:58 Status? #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:58 http://rafb.net/p/11plTh95.html #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:58 Type make. #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:59 http://rafb.net/p/zAWVNq26.html #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:59 oh, that's C, i can probably figure that out #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:59 AHHH #rhrt: 10/03/08 15:59 what the hell is this? andy753421: 10/03/08 16:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/03/08 16:08 auchter: Figure it out? #rhrt: 10/03/08 16:09 nope #rhrt: 10/03/08 16:09 i'll just wait for you #rhrt: 10/03/08 16:11 You can just comment out the line "from _motor_controller import i2c_write" (or however it is phrased). #rhrt: 10/03/08 16:11 ok #rhrt: 10/03/08 16:11 It's not being used, since we're going over serial. tommost: 10/03/08 16:26 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/03/08 16:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/03/08 16:34 The MCC works! #rhrt: 10/03/08 16:34 (We think.) andy753421: 10/03/08 16:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/03/08 16:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/03/08 17:27 A motor has moved! #rhrt: 10/03/08 17:27 are you two over in the lab? #rhrt: 10/03/08 17:28 auchter, Jon and myself. #rhrt: 10/03/08 17:28 alright, i may be over in a few minutes andy753421: 10/03/08 17:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/03/08 17:56 Mechanical team: come mount things! #rhrt: 10/03/08 17:58 Er, nevermind. jboticsource: 10/03/08 18:22 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 10/03/08 18:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/03/08 18:26 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." Mishtal: 10/03/08 18:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/03/08 18:37 >< QUIT : Client Quit kleinjt: 10/03/08 18:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/03/08 19:11 so modprobing the rt2500usb (wireless) module causes the kernel to stack dump on the robotics machine kleinjt: 10/03/08 19:48 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/03/08 20:04 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/03/08 20:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:25 auchter: did you get heat sinks? #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:26 andy753421: i got one. that's all either of the radioshacks had #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:26 :/ alright tommost: 10/03/08 22:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:26 is there anywhere else we could get them? #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:26 i guess we'll see how it handles the load tomorrow... #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:26 not that i can think of kleinjt: 10/03/08 22:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:26 alright #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:27 would it be worth jury rigging something on it, or would that just make things worse? kleinjt: 10/03/08 22:28 >< QUIT : Client Quit #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:29 andy753421: I have a copy of our disk image from before it got corrupted. #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:29 we can try it without any heatsinks. the positioning of the mosfets makes it rather difficult to really try anything else #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:29 alright #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:30 tommost: I think i got most of the important stuff uncorrupted (apt-get --reinstall install foo) #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:30 Well, then you should probably get an image of the disk. #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:30 Also, I have a 4 GB flash card. Would it be worth trying mine to see if it's the flash card that causes the corruption? #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:31 let's let it sit a while, it seems alright now kleinjt: 10/03/08 22:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:31 i should see if it supports SMART #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:32 i really doubt that #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:33 hm.. did you guys turn off the robot computer when you left? #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:33 yep #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:33 :( #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:33 alright #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:33 blame jon #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:33 We really need a way to power that thing without batteries. #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:33 he did a nice ``halt'' before hand, too #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:33 oh, that's a good point #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:33 i fogot that it was running on batteries #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:34 is it still plugged in and everything? #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:34 nope #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:34 alright #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:35 are you guys stopping by in the morning? #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:35 I'll try. #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:35 When is this demo thing? #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:36 noon till 2 #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:37 I'll be there for part of that. #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:37 i'll try to be there by 11 #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:37 I'll be in the lab by 9:20 #rhrt: 10/03/08 22:37 alright, i'll try to stop by ~10:00 as well tommost: 10/03/08 22:41 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) tommost: 10/03/08 22:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/04/08 00:21 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 10/04/08 01:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/04/08 03:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/04/08 10:06 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 10/04/08 10:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 10/04/08 10:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:06 What's our status? #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:11 yea, i slept to long, how's the robot? #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:12 I'm not there yet, since my friend is arriving pretty soon. #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:12 What did you accomplish last night? #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:13 from what I could tell we just have to plug the motor controllers into the motors and it's good #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:13 andy753421: yep, that's right #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:13 i slept too long as well, i'll be there in about 20 minutes #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:13 python-serial still isn't working on the computer #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:13 that's a slightly bigger issue... #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:14 yea, we can controll it form a laptop if we need to #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:14 we should also charge the batteries before we go over to cook stadium #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:15 well, that won't help much, batteries take a while to charge. #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:15 yea.. buy 45 minutes is better than nothing #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:15 one of them should already be good #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:15 don't know how drained the computer batteries is though #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:17 well, i'll be over in a little bit, wear your robotics shirts kleinjt: 10/04/08 11:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:32 What's happening? #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:35 I got the robot nearly ready to be plugged in, with the exception of doing a few things that would take time to reverse if anybody needed to change anything, then slept on some chairs waiting for people to show up #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:36 I woke up about fifteen minutes ago #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:36 Is andy753421 there yet? #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:37 i'm leaving now #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:37 nope andy753421: 10/04/08 11:39 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:49 andy has arrived #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:51 I've looked at the GUI stuff some; I have no idea why it wouldn't be working. #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:52 I added some debug code, so if you do #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:52 ./run.py rb.gui.gui_controller -d DEBUG #rhrt: 10/04/08 11:52 you should see a message on every button press. andy753421: 10/04/08 11:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/04/08 12:55 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 10/04/08 13:19 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 10/04/08 13:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/04/08 13:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/04/08 14:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/04/08 16:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/04/08 16:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 10/04/08 17:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/04/08 17:18 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Mishtal1: 10/04/08 18:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/04/08 18:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/04/08 18:50 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 10/04/08 18:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/04/08 18:52 >< QUIT : Client Quit Mishtal: 10/04/08 18:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 10/04/08 21:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/04/08 21:04 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Mishtal: 10/04/08 21:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 10/04/08 21:12 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) #rhrt: 10/04/08 21:36 So at tomorrow's meeting we should look at timelines and project requirements, etc. #rhrt: 10/04/08 21:40 sounds god #rhrt: 10/04/08 21:40 s/o/oo/ #rhrt: 10/04/08 21:40 fail again #rhrt: 10/04/08 21:40 i'll stop now. Mishtal: 10/04/08 22:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 10/04/08 22:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 10/05/08 00:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 10/05/08 00:32 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:07 andy #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:07 the vision code is seg-faulting when i use make #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:07 andy753421: #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:07 Mishtal: can you get me a backtrace? #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:07 sure #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:08 how do i get you it? #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:08 pastbin #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:08 not what i meant #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:08 do you just want the output from the commandline? #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:08 never mind #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:08 it works now #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:08 alright.. #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:08 i did make clean #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:08 and that fixed it #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:08 *shrug*\ #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:09 must have had outdated .o files #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:09 32/64 bit error? #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:10 http://nopaste.com/p/a9IHaUCWm #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:10 you tell me #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:11 er, that's not a backtrace #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:12 gdb main, run ./lines.jpeg, (wait for the segfault), bt #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:15 im going to need a little more information #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:15 ive never gotten a backtrace befroe #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:15 before* #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:16 and im pretty certain that the reason is because i updated my local svn, but didnt clean out the old object files when i made the program #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:21 that shouldn't really matter, make should recreate any files that are out of date #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:22 Mishtal: those are the command you need to run to get a backtrace #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:22 you'll need to use gdb #rhrt: 10/05/08 01:22 but if it works now, don't worry about it Mishtal: 10/05/08 05:19 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 10/05/08 13:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/05/08 13:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/05/08 13:26 is there an all team meeting today? #rhrt: 10/05/08 13:26 jboticsource: check your email #rhrt: 10/05/08 13:27 ok jboticsource: 10/05/08 14:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/05/08 14:24 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/05/08 14:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/05/08 14:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:41 I won't be able to make it to the meeting today, auchter, if you send me the atmega development board schematic I'll do the routing on it tonight, if you want. andy753421: 10/05/08 14:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:44 kleinjt: ok, i'll do that #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:45 kleinjt: i was going to talk about the motor controllers today #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:45 Yay explosions. #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:45 kleinjt: i came across a rather nice chip yesterday, st VNH3SP30 Mishtal: 10/05/08 14:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:46 30A integrated h-bridge; the problems with it are the fact that it's pretty hard limited to 30A (so the motor stall current would have to be below that), and it's 12V only #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:47 it looks like it only comes in surface mount #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:47 yes, that's the only package #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:48 i'm going to make up a board for it, and order one or two from digikey and give them a try jboticsource: 10/05/08 14:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:51 the example circuit looksnice and well documented #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:51 and very few external components #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:51 yep, i've already got the schematic in eagle. #rhrt: 10/05/08 14:51 the chips are not that expensive either, only $12 tommost: 10/05/08 14:54 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 10/05/08 14:57 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/05/08 15:14 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 10/05/08 15:27 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 10/05/08 15:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/05/08 16:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/05/08 16:20 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/05/08 16:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource1: 10/05/08 17:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/05/08 17:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/05/08 17:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 10/05/08 17:44 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 10/05/08 17:55 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost: 10/05/08 18:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/05/08 19:06 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 10/05/08 19:24 auchter: Have you put a link to that rack you want on the wiki? Mishtal: 10/05/08 19:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/05/08 19:40 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 10/05/08 19:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/05/08 19:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/05/08 20:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/05/08 20:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/05/08 20:32 >< QUIT : Client Quit jboticsource: 10/05/08 21:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/05/08 23:07 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/05/08 23:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/05/08 23:57 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/06/08 00:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 10/06/08 00:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/06/08 01:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/06/08 02:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/06/08 02:12 >< QUIT : Client Quit andy753421: 10/06/08 02:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/06/08 04:58 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/06/08 05:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/06/08 06:05 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." 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collinjc: 10/06/08 20:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 10/06/08 20:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." shadghos1: 10/06/08 20:56 >< NICK : shadghost collinjc: 10/06/08 21:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/06/08 21:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/06/08 21:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/06/08 21:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/06/08 22:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/06/08 22:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/06/08 23:36 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/06/08 23:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/07/08 00:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/07/08 02:16 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/07/08 02:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/07/08 05:04 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/07/08 05:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt auchter: 10/07/08 06:16 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 10/07/08 06:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/07/08 06:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/07/08 06:59 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." auchter: 10/07/08 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back." tommost: 10/07/08 14:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/07/08 14:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/07/08 15:15 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/07/08 16:31 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 10/07/08 16:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 10/07/08 16:31 >< NICK : tommost jboticsource: 10/07/08 16:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/07/08 16:41 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/07/08 16:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/07/08 16:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 10/07/08 17:22 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/07/08 18:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/07/08 18:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/07/08 18:37 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/07/08 18:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/07/08 18:48 >< QUIT : Client Quit tommost: 10/07/08 18:51 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." TheBrickWahl: 10/07/08 18:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/07/08 18:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/07/08 19:18 We're meeting at 7:30, correct? collinjc: 10/07/08 19:22 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection TheBrickWahl1: 10/07/08 19:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/07/08 19:25 indeed andy753421: 10/07/08 19:26 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc_eee: 10/07/08 19:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/07/08 19:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/07/08 19:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt auchter_: 10/07/08 19:42 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 10/07/08 19:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl1: 10/07/08 19:43 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/07/08 19:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/07/08 19:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/07/08 20:23 >< PART #rhrt : auchter: 10/07/08 20:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/07/08 21:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/07/08 21:00 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/07/08 21:01 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc_eee: 10/07/08 21:03 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 10/07/08 21:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/07/08 21:22 well, that was a fun bike ride home #rhrt: 10/07/08 21:23 the backpacks are fairly waterproof #rhrt: 10/07/08 21:25 good to know andy753421: 10/07/08 21:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/07/08 21:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/07/08 21:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/07/08 21:57 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." TheBrickWahl: 10/07/08 21:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_server: 10/07/08 22:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/07/08 22:32 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/07/08 22:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/07/08 22:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/07/08 22:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/07/08 22:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/07/08 22:55 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/07/08 23:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 10/07/08 23:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/07/08 23:15 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:22 tommost: how's the mailing list going? #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:22 It is progressing about as much as I am interested in setting it up, which is not at all. #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:23 awesome #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:23 I apt-get'd mailman and postfix and set up mailman's #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:23 Apache config file. #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:25 gah, i can't login to trac. #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:26 the guy who logged in on my computer apparently saved his password #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:26 clicking "log in" doesn't give me a chance to change the user name. i've deleted my cookies and deleted his password, yet when i click login, it still logs me in as him. #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:26 Just close Firefox and reopen it. #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:27 gah, that shouldn't be necessary #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:27 There's really no other way to do it without installing an extension. #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:32 firefox needs to start using factotum to store passwords. #rhrt: 10/07/08 23:33 Well, I don't know about factotum, but it certainly needs a non-sucky password store, yes. andy753421: 10/07/08 23:57 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/08/08 00:03 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 10/08/08 00:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/08/08 00:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/08/08 01:03 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/08/08 01:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/08/08 01:52 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 10/08/08 01:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/08/08 02:11 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/08/08 02:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/08/08 02:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc_server: 10/08/08 05:13 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net collinjc_server: 10/08/08 05:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/08/08 08:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/08/08 08:44 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 10/08/08 08:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/08/08 09:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/08/08 09:08 >< QUIT : Client Quit tommost: 10/08/08 09:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/08/08 09:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/08/08 09:33 >< QUIT : Client Quit jboticsource: 10/08/08 09:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/08/08 10:00 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) #rhrt: 10/08/08 10:28 I've posted a sponsors page. #rhrt: 10/08/08 10:29 looks good #rhrt: 10/08/08 10:30 man, that "get our projects off the ground" part would have been awesome if we were still doing helicopters #rhrt: 10/08/08 10:30 I copied that from the old page... so yeah, it was probably a terrible pun at the time. tommost: 10/08/08 10:33 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 10/08/08 14:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/08/08 15:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/08/08 16:29 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 10/08/08 17:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/08/08 17:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/08/08 17:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/08/08 18:04 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 10/08/08 19:01 I'm going to take a nap now. Someone should phone my room if I don't show up at the meeting on time. andy753421: 10/08/08 19:11 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/08/08 19:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/08/08 19:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/08/08 19:49 >< QUIT : Client Quit kleinjt: 10/08/08 19:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/08/08 20:27 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/08/08 20:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/08/08 20:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/08/08 20:56 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 10/08/08 21:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/08/08 21:02 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/08/08 21:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/08/08 21:06 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 10/08/08 21:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/08/08 21:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/08/08 21:48 good funding news #rhrt: 10/08/08 21:49 i talked to precise path today at the career fair. they would like to fund us. #rhrt: 10/08/08 21:49 so we need to whip a proposal. i will send it through the proper channels once it is done. #rhrt: 10/08/08 21:50 :) #rhrt: 10/08/08 21:50 Awesome. :D #rhrt: 10/08/08 21:51 TheBrickWahl: can you post a copy of the letter you were writing to the wiki? #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:01 tommost: this would be a cool project for us #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:01 http://andrey.mikhalchuk.com/2008/02/23/how-to-build-an-inexpensive-yet-powerful-robot-how-to-turn-your-router-into-a-routerbot.html #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:05 jboticsource: That's rather entertaining. #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:05 great idea or best idea ever? :) #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:06 it would be rather cheap to do #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:06 I don't see how it would be cheaper than just building the thing manually. #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:07 myabe not cheaper, but cheap #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:07 It would be kinda large for sumo robots. #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:08 depends on how big the ring is #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:21 andy753421: the letter is nowhere near done, but I'll post what I have #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:22 Maybe that should go in the administrative repository. #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:22 We shouldn't post that in public view. tommost: 10/08/08 22:25 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:47 andy753421: I added the draft letter to the administrative repository #rhrt: 10/08/08 22:51 alright kleinjt: 10/08/08 23:05 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/08/08 23:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/08/08 23:20 i am singing to the tune of 10k? #rhrt: 10/08/08 23:20 what are your thoughts? andy753421: 10/08/08 23:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/08/08 23:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/09/08 06:56 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 10/09/08 07:54 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/09/08 08:02 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/09/08 08:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/09/08 08:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/09/08 08:47 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/09/08 08:54 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/09/08 09:31 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 10/09/08 09:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/09/08 09:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/09/08 09:49 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/09/08 09:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/09/08 09:56 >< QUIT : Client Quit jboticsource: 10/09/08 09:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/09/08 10:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/09/08 10:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/09/08 10:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/09/08 10:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/09/08 10:45 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/09/08 11:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/09/08 12:32 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 10/09/08 13:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/09/08 13:20 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/09/08 13:26 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/09/08 13:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/09/08 13:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/09/08 14:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/09/08 14:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/09/08 14:23 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/09/08 14:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/09/08 15:03 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/09/08 15:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/09/08 15:17 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 10/09/08 15:27 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 10/09/08 15:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/09/08 15:41 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/09/08 15:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/09/08 15:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/09/08 15:58 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/09/08 15:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/09/08 16:00 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 10/09/08 16:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/09/08 17:07 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/09/08 17:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/09/08 17:27 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/09/08 17:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/09/08 17:59 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/09/08 18:00 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/09/08 18:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/09/08 18:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/09/08 19:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/09/08 21:07 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/09/08 23:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 10/10/08 00:47 >< NICK : shadghost_eeepc shadghost_eeepc: 10/10/08 00:47 >< NICK : shadghost kleinjt: 10/10/08 00:48 >< QUIT : "If tea prices are any indication, expect to pay at least $50" tommost: 10/10/08 01:00 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 10/10/08 01:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/10/08 06:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/10/08 06:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/10/08 06:55 >< QUIT : Client Quit andy753421: 10/10/08 06:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/10/08 07:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/10/08 07:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/10/08 07:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/10/08 07:50 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/10/08 08:02 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/10/08 08:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/10/08 08:53 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/10/08 09:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/10/08 10:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/10/08 10:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt quark: 10/10/08 11:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/10/08 11:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/10/08 11:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/10/08 12:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/10/08 13:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/10/08 13:43 >< QUIT : Client Quit kleinjt: 10/10/08 13:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/10/08 13:49 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 10/10/08 13:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/10/08 14:16 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/10/08 14:33 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/10/08 14:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/10/08 14:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/10/08 14:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/10/08 15:10 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 10/10/08 15:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/10/08 15:39 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/10/08 16:17 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/10/08 16:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/10/08 16:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/10/08 16:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/10/08 17:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/10/08 18:16 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 10/10/08 20:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/10/08 20:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/10/08 21:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 10/10/08 21:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/11/08 00:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/11/08 09:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/11/08 13:03 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/11/08 14:31 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/11/08 14:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/11/08 15:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/11/08 15:04 tommost: could you unlock the door to the room plz? #rhrt: 10/11/08 15:05 ACTION sighs quark: 10/11/08 15:46 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/11/08 15:55 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/11/08 16:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/11/08 16:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/11/08 16:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/11/08 17:15 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/11/08 17:27 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 10/11/08 17:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:42 andy753421: There was important discussion in the hardware meeting today. #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:43 is it in the logs? #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:43 or do i need to get filled in? #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:43 Filled in. #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:43 Ask Conrad. #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:43 alright #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:43 I've also put some stuff up on the wiki. #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:43 ok #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:44 Anyone know Colin's AIM? #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:58 wait, so we're sticking with the current mechanical design? #rhrt: 10/11/08 17:59 Apparently it needs some fixing up. #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:00 We actually measured it today; it's about 3 feet long and 2'6" wide. #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:01 so they're not building anything new this year? #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:01 By moving the drive motors under the frame we can fix chain slippage problems and narrow the frame to 2 feet, which would make it workable for the competition if the other one doesn't work out. #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:01 The issue is that the money in the budget isn't enough for anything new that's very interesting. #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:01 ah, i see. #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:02 The mechanical guys don't want to do it, but a number of the issues with the current design can be fixed with locktite. #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:06 It can also be made significantly lower to the ground and the drive wheels moved to the center quite simply. kleinjt: 10/11/08 18:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:16 kleinjt: https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/igvc/can #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:21 any comments? #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:21 I'm reading through the 'Controller Area Network (CAN)' Basics document you linked to. #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:22 s/(CAN)' Basics/(CAN) Basics' #rhrt: 10/11/08 18:22 ok kleinjt: 10/11/08 19:22 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/11/08 21:21 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 10/11/08 21:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 10/11/08 21:21 >< NICK : tommost kleinjt: 10/11/08 21:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/11/08 23:24 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/11/08 23:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/11/08 23:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 10/12/08 00:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/12/08 00:43 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/12/08 01:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl1: 10/12/08 01:49 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/12/08 02:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/12/08 02:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/12/08 03:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/12/08 03:55 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 10/12/08 03:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 10/12/08 03:55 >< NICK : tommost jboticsource: 10/12/08 09:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 10/12/08 11:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/12/08 12:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/12/08 12:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/12/08 13:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/12/08 13:06 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/12/08 13:21 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 10/12/08 13:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 10/12/08 13:22 >< NICK : tommost jboticsource: 10/12/08 14:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/12/08 14:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/12/08 14:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/12/08 14:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/12/08 15:06 kleinjt: robotics #rhrt: 10/12/08 15:08 We're on our way. kleinjt: 10/12/08 15:08 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/12/08 15:08 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 10/12/08 15:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/12/08 15:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt TehBam: 10/12/08 15:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt TehBam: 10/12/08 15:58 >< QUIT : Client Quit kleinjt: 10/12/08 16:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/12/08 16:19 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/12/08 16:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/12/08 16:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/12/08 16:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/12/08 17:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/12/08 17:09 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/12/08 17:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/12/08 18:44 so, the CIM motors have a stall current around 107A jboticsource: 10/12/08 19:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/12/08 19:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/12/08 19:57 kleinjt: in case you didn't see, i found that the stall current for the CIM motors is 107A andy753421: 10/12/08 20:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:15 I didn't see. How did you measure that, sense resistor? #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:15 auchter: since 107 A seems high for a multimeter.. #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:17 i searched for: cim motor stall current and that's the number i found. #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:17 are those the motors we are using now? #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:17 yep #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:18 ok, so, no pololu chip? #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:19 erm, I'm off. I'll read the logs for the response. kleinjt: 10/12/08 20:19 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:19 right. although we'll only be at stall for a short period of time, i'm not sure about it #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:19 just using mosfets seems like a better idea andy753421: 10/12/08 20:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/12/08 20:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:37 mmkay, sounds good. #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:37 i made a ticket for collinjc to work on that #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:37 i'll also take a look and see how many mosfets we'll need to use for the h-bridge #rhrt: 10/12/08 20:38 the motor controllers i've used in the past with these motors were capable of 40A continuous, so that's what i'd like to aim for as well TheBrickWahl1: 10/12/08 20:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/12/08 21:01 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 10/12/08 21:08 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/12/08 21:29 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/12/08 22:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 10/12/08 22:03 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 10/12/08 22:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/12/08 23:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/12/08 23:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/12/08 23:52 tommost: i believe the microstrain has a compass built in #rhrt: 10/12/08 23:57 I believe so as well, but someone should probably check #rhrt: 10/12/08 23:57 Awesome. #rhrt: 10/12/08 23:58 that's sort of a vague memory I have from like three years ago so I might be mistaken #rhrt: 10/12/08 23:59 their website uses language that leads me to think that it has a compass #rhrt: 10/13/08 00:00 stuff involving crazy things like "gauss" and "magnetometers" #rhrt: 10/13/08 00:03 Maybe that's what the orientation stuff is: https://www.rhitrobotics.org/browser/trunk/software/rb/microstrain/__init__.py#L32 #rhrt: 10/13/08 00:05 hey, you get to answer a python question for me, since it's now bothering me #rhrt: 10/13/08 00:05 https://www.rhitrobotics.org/browser/trunk/software/rb/microstrain/__init__.py#L57 #rhrt: 10/13/08 00:06 what does that do? i would read it as just a format statement, but it looks like three formats for one variable. #rhrt: 10/13/08 00:06 obviously i'm missing something #rhrt: 10/13/08 00:07 The variable is already a three-tuple. #rhrt: 10/13/08 00:07 crazy voodoo andy753421: 10/13/08 00:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/13/08 00:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/13/08 01:02 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/13/08 03:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/13/08 06:22 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 10/13/08 07:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/13/08 07:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/13/08 07:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/13/08 07:52 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 10/13/08 09:10 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/13/08 09:23 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/13/08 09:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/13/08 09:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 10/13/08 09:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/13/08 09:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/13/08 10:02 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/13/08 10:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 10/13/08 10:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/13/08 11:01 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc_eee: 10/13/08 11:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 10/13/08 12:31 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/13/08 12:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/13/08 12:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/13/08 13:29 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc_eee: 10/13/08 13:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/13/08 13:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:40 so, anyone want to go to the robotics room storage today? #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:41 i would #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:41 ok, when? #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:41 after this period #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:41 alright, i'll be in the lab #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:41 ok #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:41 robotics lab, that is #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:42 btw there is a 25 foot piece of aluminium stock in front of our room #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:42 I'll come too. #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:42 jboticsource: so i noticed. #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:42 that is the future robot #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:43 do you want me to bring it in here so we don't get yelled at? #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:43 that would be great if you could #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:43 ok. #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:43 i kinda still need acess.... #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:44 Yeah, I'll do that today. #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:44 I'm leaving for the union now. #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:44 and to learn how to speall #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:46 25ft aluminum stock isn't the most maneuverable #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:46 i got that out of the machine shop.... #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:46 and up teh stairs..... #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:46 yea.... #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:46 bells #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:49 you should probably just leave whatever class you're in right now #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:50 i cant at the moment #rhrt: 10/13/08 13:50 i may be able to leave early though kleinjt: 10/13/08 14:02 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/13/08 14:11 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc_eee: 10/13/08 14:22 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 10/13/08 14:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/13/08 14:32 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/13/08 15:29 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/13/08 15:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:02 why does trac not have a dropdown box for the user to assign tickets to? #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:03 It doesn't know what users are available. #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:03 The auth is done at the Apache level. #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:03 ah, brilliant jboticsource: 10/13/08 16:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/13/08 16:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/13/08 16:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:30 kleinjt: good news, we have at least 1 12V-12V vicor, and at least 2 12V-5V #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:31 the 12V->12V works really well, input range of like 10V to 20V; i tested it from 10V to 15V and it kept the output at 12V. #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:32 auchter: awesome #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:32 so we just need somebody to make an eagle library for it #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:35 nevermind, it looks like that is already covered by a ticket #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:35 well, it would be difficult/unwanted to actually put that directly on a PCB #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:35 we need to decide on cases to use, as that's how it would make sense to mount it #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:36 the board will mostly consist of taking the regulated voltage and providing fused outputs, monitoring for the current draw and output voltage, etc. #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:36 i should make this clearer on the wiki at some point, maybe wednesday #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:38 auchter: If you don't like viz. then change it. ;) #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:39 well, i just keep reading over it and the more i do, the less sense it makes #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:40 Honestly, I just use viz. when I can't rationalize the use of e.g. or i.e. #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:41 well, viz doesn't make sense (e.g. or i.e. don't make sense either) #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:42 re makes sense to me #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:42 Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. #rhrt: 10/13/08 16:43 of course. now, arguing about latin is less productive than my hunt for food kleinjt: 10/13/08 16:48 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/13/08 17:02 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 10/13/08 17:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/13/08 17:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/13/08 18:02 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/13/08 18:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/13/08 18:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/13/08 18:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/13/08 18:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/13/08 18:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/13/08 20:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/13/08 20:58 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 10/13/08 21:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost: 10/13/08 21:09 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 10/13/08 21:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/13/08 21:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/13/08 21:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/13/08 21:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/13/08 22:25 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/13/08 22:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/13/08 22:42 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/13/08 22:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/13/08 22:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/13/08 23:12 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/13/08 23:42 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/14/08 00:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/14/08 00:08 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/14/08 00:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/14/08 04:44 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net collinjc_server: 10/14/08 04:44 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net jboticsource: 10/14/08 04:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_server: 10/14/08 04:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/14/08 06:30 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/14/08 06:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/14/08 07:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 07:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/14/08 07:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/14/08 08:00 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/14/08 08:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/14/08 08:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 08:47 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/14/08 09:11 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 10/14/08 09:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 09:17 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/14/08 09:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/14/08 09:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/14/08 10:09 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/14/08 10:39 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) jboticsource: 10/14/08 10:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/14/08 11:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 11:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/14/08 11:27 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 10/14/08 11:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 11:56 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/14/08 12:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 10/14/08 12:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/14/08 12:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource1: 10/14/08 12:24 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost: 10/14/08 12:33 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 10/14/08 12:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/14/08 12:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/14/08 12:35 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 10/14/08 12:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 12:37 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 10/14/08 12:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/14/08 13:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 14:04 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 10/14/08 14:17 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 10/14/08 14:24 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/14/08 15:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt ncw000: 10/14/08 15:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt ncw000: 10/14/08 15:24 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/14/08 15:26 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/14/08 15:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 16:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 16:31 >< PART #rhrt : kleinj1: 10/14/08 16:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/14/08 16:38 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 10/14/08 17:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinj1: 10/14/08 18:03 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/14/08 18:06 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/14/08 18:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/14/08 18:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 18:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/14/08 18:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/14/08 18:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/14/08 19:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/14/08 19:27 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/14/08 19:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/14/08 19:59 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/14/08 20:13 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 10/14/08 20:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/14/08 20:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/14/08 21:47 so how was the meeting? #rhrt: 10/14/08 21:50 Okay. tommost: 10/14/08 22:01 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 10/14/08 22:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 10/14/08 22:01 >< NICK : tommost #rhrt: 10/14/08 22:01 I'll post the minutes. andy753421: 10/14/08 22:02 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/14/08 22:14 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/14/08 22:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/14/08 22:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 22:33 >< QUIT : ""Warning: it doesn't compile"" collinjc: 10/14/08 22:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/14/08 22:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/14/08 22:57 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/14/08 23:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/15/08 00:03 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 10/15/08 00:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/15/08 00:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/15/08 00:20 >< PART #rhrt : kleinj1: 10/15/08 00:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/15/08 00:40 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource1: 10/15/08 00:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinj1: 10/15/08 00:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource1: 10/15/08 00:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/15/08 00:59 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 10/15/08 01:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/15/08 01:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/15/08 02:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/15/08 07:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/15/08 07:32 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/15/08 08:00 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net collinjc_server: 10/15/08 08:00 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net collinjc_server: 10/15/08 08:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/15/08 08:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/15/08 09:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/15/08 09:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/15/08 11:01 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 10/15/08 12:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/15/08 12:00 >< QUIT : Client Quit tommost: 10/15/08 12:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/15/08 13:20 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/15/08 13:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/15/08 15:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/15/08 15:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/15/08 15:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/15/08 15:59 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 10/15/08 16:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 10/15/08 16:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/15/08 17:22 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 10/15/08 17:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 10/15/08 17:22 >< NICK : tommost collinjc: 10/15/08 17:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_server: 10/15/08 18:05 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/15/08 18:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." shadghost: 10/15/08 20:30 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 10/15/08 20:32 EVeryone leave! #rhrt: 10/15/08 20:32 Quick! Part so one of us can get ops! #rhrt: 10/15/08 20:32 Never! TheBrickWahl: 10/15/08 20:33 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 10/15/08 20:33 I want to be able to kick shadghost. tommost: 10/15/08 20:33 >< PART #rhrt : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." rhrtlog: 10/15/08 21:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:05 There isn't anyone here... #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:05 On the plus side, the shafts seem to have been flattened. andy753421: 10/15/08 21:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt Morasique: 10/15/08 21:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt Morasique: 10/15/08 21:16 >< PART #rhrt : auchter: 10/15/08 21:29 >< PART #rhrt : auchter: 10/15/08 21:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:39 did tommost give up on trying to get ops? #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:39 Long ago. #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:40 Someone (I'm guessing Jay) has disassembled the robot. #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:40 oh, wonderful #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:40 It looks narrower now. #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:40 Oh, it was Conrad, according to Jay. #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:40 Er, andy753421. #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:41 easy to get the two confused #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:41 UdontKnow: how's it going? #rhrt: 10/15/08 21:43 Oh yes, they're so similar. andy753421: 10/15/08 23:16 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/15/08 23:16 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 10/15/08 23:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/15/08 23:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/15/08 23:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/15/08 23:55 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/16/08 00:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/16/08 00:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/16/08 02:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/16/08 10:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/16/08 12:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/16/08 12:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/16/08 13:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 10/16/08 13:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/16/08 17:30 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/16/08 17:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/16/08 18:11 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 10/16/08 20:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/16/08 20:27 auchter: I understand you're looking for some heatsinks #rhrt: 10/16/08 20:28 if you let me know what kind and how many, I can look for them when I go to Mendelson's tomorrow collinjc: 10/16/08 21:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/16/08 21:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:05 auchter: He's talking to you. #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:07 TheBrickWahl: We're looking for TO-220 heatsinks for mosfets. They look about like this: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=121 #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:08 Somewhere between 50-100 cents each is a reasonable price. We need 8 of them I think #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:09 is there anything I should look for? #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:12 I can't think of anything else #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:16 I don't think the only ones I see on their website (assuming I've got the right one) would work, they appear too big. http://www.meci.com/product_info.php/cPath/269/products_id/3100225 jboticsource: 10/16/08 22:17 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:18 they only have a small fraction of the stuff on their site, so they may still have what you need #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:19 ok TheBrickWahl: 10/16/08 22:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:57 sorry, i was at a concert #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:58 anyway, i did some mathy stuff today #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:58 for 40A continuous motor controllers, using 2x IRF1405 per leg of the bridge (i.e. 8 mosfets total), each would dissipate ~4.7W #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:59 (at full load, of course) #rhrt: 10/16/08 22:59 (don't quote me on that number, just assume i said 5W because i'm too lazy to find the file with my actual result) #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:00 also, i'll likely be bringing back 3 Victor 883 motor controllers with me #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:01 they're not great, but for getting a usable testing platform they'll work fine #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:01 because with the current h-bridges with only 1 mosfet per leg, and very crummy heatsinks, we'll not be able to handle much current without having them smoke on us #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:02 ever get the feeling you're just rambling to yourself? #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:04 Yeah, but you're not in this case. #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:04 Where are those Vicors coming from? #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:05 from the FIRST team i was on in high school #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:05 they moved to the victor 884s a few years ago, and the 883s are no longer allowed, and they have a ton of them #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:06 Ah, cool. How much? #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:06 free #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:06 The best price of all. :D #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:07 auchter: I'll make a motor controller controller board for those motor controllers instead #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:08 kleinjt: it's essentially the same thing. they just take a pwm signal, +5V, and GND #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:08 auchter: yes, but it'll mean two 1x3 headers instead of 2 1x6 connectors. #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:09 I guess it wouldn't be much work to make it compatible with both #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:09 fine, I'll just do that :( #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:11 the only difference is the presence of an inverter #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:12 and if you don't want to do it on protoboard, make up a board in eagle and try to get it made by gary #rhrt: 10/16/08 23:12 this would actually be a good time to get the process down so we don't have problems in the future collinjc: 10/16/08 23:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/16/08 23:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/16/08 23:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/16/08 23:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/17/08 00:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/17/08 00:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/17/08 01:57 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/17/08 02:08 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) TheBrickWahl: 10/17/08 07:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/17/08 11:02 I got 10 hestsinks for 10 cents each #rhrt: 10/17/08 11:03 they also had what was marked as a 19 in sub rack in the section with server racks #rhrt: 10/17/08 11:04 they had several sizes ranging about 6 to 18 in high #rhrt: 10/17/08 11:04 they were open on top, bottom, front, and back and the side panels had a bunch of mounting holes #rhrt: 10/17/08 11:05 they were all $20, and I can pick one up on my way home if you want one jboticsource: 10/17/08 11:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/17/08 11:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/17/08 12:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/17/08 12:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:07 auchter: Do you know what the pinout is on the pwm control line for the Victor 883 motor controllers? All it says in the datasheets I've found is to use Victors motor controller drivers.. #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:09 kleinjt: it's the exact same pinout as a normal servo, #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:09 so i think it's (ground +5V PWM) #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:11 ok #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:14 auchter: Did you catch what Nick said about racks? #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:15 yeah, i don't think that's what we want though #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:16 auchter: I committed a schematic for the motor controller controller, I'm wiring it up now. #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:18 erm, by writing I mean laying out the PCB in eagle, I'm not doing it on protoboard by my interpretation of your earlier suggestion. #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:19 ok, cool #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:37 well, eagle autorouter did a great job on the board :P #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:38 fantastic #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:38 now, the cadence allegro autorouter seems pretty cool from what limited info i know about it #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:42 damn, i apparently need to upgrade eagle. #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:43 I'm going to make a 3d rendering of the board, erm, I'm rebooting into windows kleinjt: 10/17/08 13:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/17/08 13:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/17/08 13:55 also, class files probably should not be checked into the repository... #rhrt: 10/17/08 14:05 eh? #rhrt: 10/17/08 14:08 http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/4240/motorcontrollercontrollxm9.png <-- here is a pretty picture of the board kleinjt: 10/17/08 14:08 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 10/17/08 14:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/17/08 14:12 auchter: what did you mean by "also, class files probably should not be checked into the repository... " #rhrt: 10/17/08 14:18 that was directed towards the software team #rhrt: 10/17/08 14:18 Yeah, I'll tell him that. #rhrt: 10/17/08 14:21 fantastic, i have three victors #rhrt: 10/17/08 14:22 cool kleinjt: 10/17/08 14:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/17/08 15:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/17/08 16:40 I've got a non-autorouted version of the motor controller controller board. http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/7043/motorcontrollercontrollqr8.png , http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/7285/motorcontrollercontrollsp4.png #rhrt: 10/17/08 16:41 auchter: I also broke out two external interrupt pins #rhrt: 10/17/08 16:41 so, we could maybe use encoders with it kleinjt: 10/17/08 16:52 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 10/17/08 16:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/17/08 17:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/17/08 17:27 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/17/08 17:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/17/08 17:36 kleinjt: looks good, try to get that made by gary then #rhrt: 10/17/08 17:38 auchter: Ok, I'll get on that on monday/tuesday. #rhrt: 10/17/08 18:11 so i managed to kind of take apart one of the victors #rhrt: 10/17/08 18:11 it looks like they use discrete components for driving the gates #rhrt: 10/17/08 18:11 which is something we'll obviously not do #rhrt: 10/17/08 18:12 they use 3 mosfets per leg (so 12 total), with no heatsinks, but they use a fan for cooling #rhrt: 10/17/08 18:12 the mosfets are FDP6035L #rhrt: 10/17/08 18:22 auchter: Do you know if ground pins should be labeled with the direction of 'pwr' for eagle libraries? #rhrt: 10/17/08 18:23 I'm trying to make a device for the 74VHC943 #rhrt: 10/17/08 18:27 I'll just stick it down as passive, hopefully that won't break anything. andy7534211: 10/17/08 18:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/17/08 18:31 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) #rhrt: 10/17/08 18:33 acoustic coupler? andy7534211: 10/17/08 18:35 >< QUIT : Client Quit andy753421: 10/17/08 18:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:03 kleinjt: so, i'm thinking about using 3 irf1405s per leg, and putting a 40mm fan over them #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:03 each mosfet would be putting off around 2.1W of heat #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:03 this is how a potential arrangement would look, with the square being a 40mm outline: http://freya.phire.org/shots/2008-10-17_23:58:23_1920x1200.png #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:04 ok #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:08 then we could use one of these to cool the mosfets: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835221001 #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:08 24CFM, should be sufficicent, haha #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:09 Do you comprehend the review? #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:09 no, i was trying to understand it #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:10 i think he meant that he thought it was an 80mm fan #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:10 Are you sure he wasn't expecting 40 1mm fans? #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:10 or 40 m&m candies #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:10 taking the punctuation literally seems to imply that. #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:12 I have a newegg order in the works that that could piggyback on, if you like. #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:12 Er, wait, it's out of stock. #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:15 here is a 40mm that is only 2 dollars (but it 8cfm): http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16781 #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:15 maybe if we stick three in series #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:15 er.. parallel. #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:15 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835119049 #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:16 that first one i linked to was me kinda joking, i doubt we would need to move that much air #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:16 TheBrickWahl: Maybe you should investigate fans. #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:16 oh,those are out of stock as well #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:16 The ones I liked to are in stock and cheaper :) #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:16 alright, i'll work on this board a bit later #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:17 if someone wants, make an eagle part for a 40mm fan #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:17 http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G2201 <-- how about this? #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:17 erm, how do you suggest we mount that to 12 mosfets? #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:18 gobs of non-conductive paste #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:18 right. so, fans it is. #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:20 I have a peltier cooler in my room that you guys are welcome to try #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:21 its much larger than that one and might be better suited for a computer #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:21 http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16216 <- how about a 235CFM fan? We could even have a motor controller to drive it. #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:22 Awesome! Our cooling system can make our robot double as a hovercraft. #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:22 i think we might have one of those in storage, actually #rhrt: 10/17/08 20:22 mine is similar to this one: http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PJT-10/LARGE-THERMOELECTRIC-DEVICE/1.html kleinjt: 10/17/08 20:31 >< PART #rhrt : giardija: 10/17/08 21:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt giardija: 10/17/08 21:56 >< PART #rhrt : Conra1: 10/17/08 21:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/17/08 21:59 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 10/17/08 22:02 >< PART #rhrt : giardija1: 10/17/08 22:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt giardija1: 10/17/08 23:23 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 10/17/08 23:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/18/08 00:55 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/18/08 01:01 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 10/18/08 01:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 10/18/08 02:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/18/08 06:45 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 10/18/08 06:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/18/08 09:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/18/08 10:27 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/18/08 10:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/18/08 11:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/18/08 11:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/18/08 11:42 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinj1: 10/18/08 13:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/18/08 13:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 10/18/08 13:27 >< PART #rhrt : giardija: 10/18/08 13:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt UdontKnow: 10/18/08 14:37 >< NICK : \0 #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:44 Why are we honored by the presence of a freenode administrator on our channel? #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:46 Shadghost parted a while back so I was trying to get everyone to part so that someone could get ops and we could finally complete the registration of this channel. #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:47 There were antics. #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:49 antics? #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:50 he's a rather unfriendly fellow. #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:50 \0: aren't you? #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:50 hasn't said a damn word to me, feels content to smugly sit in the corner, apparently. #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:51 I googled him and his psudonames on #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:51 s/psudonames/pseudonyms #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:51 there is quite a bit about him, he pops up in meeting minutes and such #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:54 I guess I could go back to pretending it isn't here, but it is a little creepy. #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:54 yeah, i don't know why he's still here. #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:54 \0: why are you here? #rhrt: 10/18/08 14:57 What were the antics that brought his presence in the first place? I've never seen markbot here :/ #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:07 I was emulating markbot's antics. Specifically, the get-the-whole-channel-kicked ones. #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:08 My bot was far too controlled, though; it joined only once per second. #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:42 According to the logs, UdontKnow never joined :/ #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:43 Yeah, I took down the logger as part of the "everyone part" attempt. #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:43 oh, right. #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:50 <\0> tommost: auchter: you should remember me, both of you were active when I joined #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:50 <\0> auchter: my friends dont consider me unfriendly :) #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:50 I remember you. :) #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:50 <\0> is there a problem with me staying at all? #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:51 I don't have a problem. I just brought it up and complained about it because it was something interesting to talk about. #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:51 Hmm. What about robots? #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:51 Robots are interesting. #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:52 I already did my work for break, I'm waiting on auchter to give me the eagle libraries for the CAN parts. I haven't told him that yet though, so I hope I get to wait for a long time. #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:54 s/ break,/break. Now #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:59 I noticed yesterday that somebody unboxed one of the small robots and left it unassembled on the software bench. Is somebody constructing minions? #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:59 Heh heh heh. #rhrt: 10/18/08 15:59 Wait 'till you see the one that I did assemble.. :) #rhrt: 10/18/08 16:00 :/ Will we be meeting tomorrow? #rhrt: 10/18/08 16:00 Oh, yeah, we should probably do that. #rhrt: 10/18/08 16:14 hm, i might be able to make it to the meeting tomorrow #rhrt: 10/18/08 16:15 kleinj1: libraries for the can parts are on eagle's library page #rhrt: 10/18/08 16:16 auchter: ok #rhrt: 10/18/08 16:27 We've got a 5V bus, right? #rhrt: 10/18/08 16:27 nevermind, I need 3.3V anyways #rhrt: 10/18/08 16:29 yes, there'll be a 5V supply \0: 10/18/08 16:32 >< NICK : UdontKnow collinjc: 10/18/08 16:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/18/08 16:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." giardija: 10/18/08 17:32 >< PART #rhrt : Conra1: 10/18/08 17:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/18/08 17:37 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/18/08 18:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt UdontKnow: 10/18/08 19:12 >< NICK : e andy753421: 10/18/08 21:05 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/18/08 21:11 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 10/18/08 21:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt e: 10/18/08 21:33 >< NICK : Wowbagger Conra1: 10/18/08 22:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/18/08 22:32 >< PART #rhrt : shadghost: 10/18/08 22:39 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) #rhrt: 10/18/08 22:40 Wowbagger: what's with the constant alias changing? kleinj1: 10/18/08 22:46 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) #rhrt: 10/18/08 23:10 auchter: someone invented /nick, and I try to keep that person happy :) andy753421: 10/18/08 23:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/18/08 23:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/18/08 23:53 auchter: According to a tad bit of stalking, this man placed in a "users with most nicknames" contest off of an IRC log. Also, a surprise winner on the same channel was none other than rr72, who "wrote the shortest lines" at an average of 18.8 characters a line. andy753421: 10/18/08 23:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:08 kleinjt: ah, i managed to find the same page. #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:08 the random rr72 quote i got was: "my moniter setting are to small" #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:10 yeah :) #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:11 don't show this page to tom though, he might get crazy ideas for logview. andy753421: 10/19/08 00:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:21 Don't worry; I've been thinking that I'd rewrite logview in a random programming language to learn it before I add any more features. #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:22 ruby! #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:23 I was thinking D, since you're always complaining about resource usage. #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:24 As it's a CGI I like the idea of avoiding all the startup costs of a language like Python (and, I assume, Ruby). #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:25 startup costs are pretty minor unless you're using java #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:26 Out of curiosity, how does Ruby resolve imports (or whatever they're called in Ruby). #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:26 ? #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:26 you could always use php :P #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:26 Booo. #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:26 Keep a civil tongue in your mouth. #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:26 `require "library"' #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:26 and `import Package' #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:27 i've never really done anything with the actual resolving #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:27 Mmm. #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:27 require is just a method of Kernel: http://ruby-doc.org/core/classes/Kernel.html#M005967 #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:27 Well, with Python it involves checking every directory on the PYTHONPATH in several different ways. #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:28 (Assuming a default implementation.) #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:29 (You can replace the import mechanics to, say, embed your libraries inside a .exe, which is what py2exe, etc. do.) #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:30 oh, make that `require' and `include' #rhrt: 10/19/08 00:30 include is a method of Module jboticsource: 10/19/08 00:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/19/08 01:04 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 10/19/08 01:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/19/08 01:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/19/08 02:44 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/19/08 02:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/19/08 08:22 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/19/08 09:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/19/08 11:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/19/08 11:17 I wont be able to make it to the all team meeting today. Neither will mishtal. #rhrt: 10/19/08 11:25 Yeah, I'm not expecting great turnout. collinjc: 10/19/08 11:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/19/08 12:10 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) #rhrt: 10/19/08 13:12 I won't be there either TheBrickWahl: 10/19/08 13:12 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 10/19/08 13:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/19/08 13:17 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 10/19/08 13:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/19/08 13:41 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 10/19/08 13:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Conra1: 10/19/08 13:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/19/08 13:54 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/19/08 14:30 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 10/19/08 14:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/19/08 14:47 >< QUIT : Client Quit tommost: 10/19/08 14:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/19/08 14:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/19/08 15:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/19/08 16:12 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 10/19/08 16:24 >< QUIT : Success tommost: 10/19/08 16:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/19/08 16:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/19/08 16:32 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 10/19/08 17:10 tommost: ``re'' is not an abbreviation of anything, so no need for the period #rhrt: 10/19/08 17:10 ACTION sighs #rhrt: 10/19/08 17:11 hey, just trying to help. TheBrickWahl: 10/19/08 17:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/19/08 17:45 Nick bought some heatsinks. kleinjt: 10/19/08 18:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/19/08 19:49 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/19/08 20:05 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/19/08 20:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/19/08 20:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/19/08 20:49 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/19/08 20:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/19/08 21:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/19/08 21:38 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/19/08 21:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/19/08 22:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/19/08 22:20 Wowbagger: Would you please help us register this channel? None of us have the required op status, and getting that would require a coordinated effort of everyone parting, which isn't likely to happen any time soon. #rhrt: 10/19/08 22:21 Since you are our uh.. resident freenode liaison. tommost: 10/19/08 22:32 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." #rhrt: 10/19/08 22:39 I'll even mail you some cookies I got in the mail. They aren't really tasty though. #rhrt: 10/19/08 22:39 You probably don't want them, but if you do, I'll mail a few. #rhrt: 10/19/08 22:51 You drive a hard bargain, I'll throw in some tea. It would go great with the cookies. jboticsource: 10/19/08 23:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/19/08 23:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/19/08 23:43 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/19/08 23:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/19/08 23:48 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 10/19/08 23:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/20/08 00:15 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/20/08 00:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/20/08 00:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/20/08 00:47 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 10/20/08 00:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/20/08 00:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/20/08 01:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/20/08 01:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/20/08 01:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/20/08 02:36 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/20/08 06:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/20/08 08:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/20/08 08:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/20/08 08:35 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/20/08 08:53 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 10/20/08 09:02 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 10/20/08 09:12 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 10/20/08 09:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/20/08 09:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/20/08 09:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/20/08 09:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt giardija: 10/20/08 10:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt giardija: 10/20/08 10:04 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 10/20/08 10:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/20/08 10:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/20/08 11:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/20/08 11:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/20/08 11:38 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 10/20/08 11:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/20/08 11:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/20/08 12:29 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 10/20/08 12:48 I talked to Dr. Fisher this morning #rhrt: 10/20/08 12:49 he said he'd come to the meeting tomorrow #rhrt: 10/20/08 12:50 he said his only concern is time and if someone else is willing to be our adviser he would "happily defer" jboticsourc1: 10/20/08 12:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/20/08 12:50 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsourc1: 10/20/08 13:33 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) jboticsource: 10/20/08 13:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/20/08 13:47 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 10/20/08 14:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:17 auchter: What was the email of the person who produces PCB on campus? Here is a draft of the email: http://dpaste.com/85698/ #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:19 I figured it would be better if I didn't mention anything about the robotics club. #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:19 gary burgess, but i'm not sure his email #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:19 Gary.D.Burgess@Rose-Hulman.edu jboticsource: 10/20/08 14:21 >< QUIT : Success #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:21 Then if the email looks fine, I guess I'll send it. #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:22 yep, looks fine to me #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:22 is ``gerber'' the actual name of a specific format? #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:22 ah, wiking it helpxs #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:23 good point. Maybe they are Gerber RS-274D and Gerber RS-274X #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:24 apparently it's a subset of 274D jboticsource: 10/20/08 14:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:25 right. So I'm assuming that the plain gerber export in eagle exports to RS-274D, and the RS-274X option exports to RS-274X #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:26 a safe assumption indeed #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:27 not really :/. I'll just leave the email as it is. kleinjt: 10/20/08 14:27 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/20/08 14:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:31 ok, email sent #rhrt: 10/20/08 14:42 "Gerber274x works, I need a .top ,.bot files as well as the excellon drill file." kleinjt: 10/20/08 14:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/20/08 14:46 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/20/08 14:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/20/08 15:03 Ok, I've committed the files that he wants to SVN (.TOP, .BOT, .DRD). Feel free to take a look at them and let me know if you've got any comments. I'll email them around 4:15. #rhrt: 10/20/08 15:03 I came up with an eagle job file that creates a file to what I think are his specifications and committed that too. #rhrt: 10/20/08 15:03 s/file/files #rhrt: 10/20/08 15:05 you can email them now if you want #rhrt: 10/20/08 15:10 the gerber files look fine to me #rhrt: 10/20/08 15:11 Ok, how does this look: http://dpaste.com/85709/ #rhrt: 10/20/08 15:14 ok, make that: http://dpaste.com/85711/ #rhrt: 10/20/08 15:16 mmkay, email sent :/ kleinjt: 10/20/08 15:18 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 10/20/08 15:28 that's a crazy email jboticsource: 10/20/08 15:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/20/08 16:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/20/08 17:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/20/08 17:07 auchter: crazy email? #rhrt: 10/20/08 17:07 at any rate, he emailed me back saying there weren't any pads on the board. I'm a bit confused, I'll talk to him tomorrow. #rhrt: 10/20/08 17:19 yeah, i remember him saying ``something doesn't look right'' last year collinjc: 10/20/08 17:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/20/08 19:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/20/08 19:13 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/20/08 20:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 10/20/08 20:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 10/20/08 20:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 10/20/08 20:46 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource1: 10/20/08 20:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/20/08 21:02 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 10/20/08 21:02 andy753421: can you come to the sga finace meeting on wednessday? #rhrt: 10/20/08 21:02 yea #rhrt: 10/20/08 21:03 cool kleinjt: 10/20/08 21:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 10/20/08 21:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/20/08 21:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource1: 10/20/08 21:33 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 10/20/08 21:52 am i here? #rhrt: 10/20/08 21:53 likely Wowbagger: 10/20/08 22:46 >< NICK : \dev\brain andy7534211: 10/20/08 23:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/20/08 23:13 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/20/08 23:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy7534211: 10/21/08 00:15 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource1: 10/21/08 00:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/21/08 00:22 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 10/21/08 00:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/21/08 00:54 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 10/21/08 04:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/21/08 05:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/21/08 06:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/21/08 07:07 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/21/08 07:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/21/08 07:59 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/21/08 08:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/21/08 08:38 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 10/21/08 08:44 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/21/08 08:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/21/08 08:52 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource1: 10/21/08 09:22 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 10/21/08 09:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/21/08 09:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/21/08 10:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/21/08 10:51 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 10/21/08 11:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/21/08 11:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/21/08 11:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/21/08 12:32 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/21/08 12:35 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 10/21/08 12:40 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/21/08 12:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/21/08 12:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt \dev\brain: 10/21/08 13:00 >< NICK : UdontKnow jboticsource: 10/21/08 13:32 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 10/21/08 13:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/21/08 13:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/21/08 13:48 kleinjt: any news on the boards? #rhrt: 10/21/08 13:48 UdontKnow: good call on the name change, ``\dev\brain'' was one of the least sensible things i've ever seen kleinjt: 10/21/08 14:18 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/21/08 14:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/21/08 14:24 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 10/21/08 14:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/21/08 15:18 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/21/08 15:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/21/08 15:29 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 10/21/08 15:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/21/08 15:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/21/08 15:47 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection ncw000: 10/21/08 15:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/21/08 15:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/21/08 16:15 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/21/08 16:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/21/08 16:22 >< QUIT : Client Quit tommost: 10/21/08 16:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/21/08 16:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt ncw000: 10/21/08 16:57 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/21/08 17:51 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/21/08 18:38 >< PART #rhrt : UdontKnow: 10/21/08 18:48 >< NICK : Iknow #rhrt: 10/21/08 19:12 tommost: no meeting email? #rhrt: 10/21/08 19:15 Oh, good point. tommost: 10/21/08 19:18 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 10/21/08 19:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/21/08 19:30 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/21/08 19:33 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/21/08 19:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt Iknow: 10/21/08 20:40 >< NICK : UdontKnow tommost: 10/21/08 20:42 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 10/21/08 20:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/21/08 20:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/21/08 21:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/21/08 21:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/21/08 22:02 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 10/21/08 22:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 10/21/08 22:02 >< NICK : tommost #rhrt: 10/21/08 22:07 so dr. fisher seems pretty cool #rhrt: 10/21/08 22:07 Yup. jboticsource: 10/21/08 22:14 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/21/08 22:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/21/08 22:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/21/08 22:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/21/08 22:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/21/08 23:00 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/21/08 23:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/21/08 23:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Conra1: 10/21/08 23:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/21/08 23:47 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/21/08 23:58 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." TheBrickWahl: 10/22/08 00:02 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 10/22/08 00:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/22/08 01:31 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/22/08 01:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/22/08 02:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/22/08 08:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/22/08 09:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/22/08 09:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/22/08 09:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/22/08 10:22 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 10/22/08 10:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/22/08 10:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/22/08 10:32 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/22/08 10:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/22/08 10:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/22/08 10:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/22/08 11:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/22/08 11:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/22/08 11:51 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/22/08 11:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/22/08 11:55 >< QUIT : Client Quit tommost: 10/22/08 12:34 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 10/22/08 12:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/22/08 12:52 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) TheBrickWahl: 10/22/08 13:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/22/08 14:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/22/08 14:47 auchter: I talked to Gary, it sounds like he needed another file, but he wasn't exactly sure what it was. I generated a few other information files which he didn't specifically ask for, so I'll just send them to him. The lack of pads was a bug on his end of the software, the traces didn't show up if he loaded them first or something. The pads worked. He sounded pretty busy, the rapid prototyping machine was broken. #rhrt: 10/22/08 14:48 It sounds like he created the board, he was just having problems getting it drilled because it was complaining something was missing. Worst case scenario, I'll just ask him for the board and drill it myself. #rhrt: 10/22/08 14:49 He expressed a dislike for eagle, but mentioned that students in the past (which have since graduated) had used it to create boards. tommost: 10/22/08 15:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 10/22/08 15:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/22/08 15:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/22/08 15:28 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 10/22/08 15:35 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/22/08 15:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 10/22/08 16:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/22/08 16:13 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/22/08 16:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:44 haha. #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:46 :) #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:46 i'll tell them to talk to IAIT #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:47 eh? #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:47 kleinjt: check you email :) #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:49 I'm confused. How was he able to reply to everyone? #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:49 i think anyone on the list can mail the list #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:49 I though that I was the only person authorized to send to the mailing list. #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:49 Ah. #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:51 Well, if that's the case then all we need to do is get IAIT to set us up a list for each team and auchter will get his wish. #rhrt: 10/22/08 16:54 until that time, i will proceed to treat our current list as the electonics list jboticsource: 10/22/08 16:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/22/08 16:56 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) #rhrt: 10/22/08 17:01 What, and not send team messages to everybody equally? #rhrt: 10/22/08 17:02 kleinjt: http://www.4pcb.com/index.php?load=content&page_id=134 #rhrt: 10/22/08 17:02 i just noticed the ``Competitions & Projects: '' section #rhrt: 10/22/08 17:03 Yeah, I saw that last year #rhrt: 10/22/08 17:03 someone should probably call them. collinjc: 10/22/08 17:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/22/08 18:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/22/08 19:03 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc_eee: 10/22/08 19:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 10/22/08 20:01 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 10/22/08 20:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/22/08 20:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/22/08 20:28 hey, what the! #rhrt: 10/22/08 20:28 ? #rhrt: 10/22/08 20:28 apparently some guy at VT got image recognition for IGVC to serve as his masters thesis #rhrt: 10/22/08 20:29 http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-05262005-103758/unrestricted/bacha_thesis.pdf #rhrt: 10/22/08 20:30 That explains them winning. :) #rhrt: 10/22/08 20:30 hm, i'll have to read that when i have more time #rhrt: 10/22/08 20:30 i thought igvc was supposed to be undergrad? #rhrt: 10/22/08 20:31 No, definitely not. There are lots of graduate students. #rhrt: 10/22/08 20:31 ah ok TheBrickWahl: 10/22/08 20:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/22/08 20:44 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 10/22/08 20:50 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/22/08 20:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/22/08 20:58 kleinjt: You have large REI boxes in the lab. andy753421: 10/22/08 21:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/22/08 21:02 tommost: yes #rhrt: 10/22/08 21:03 Are we getting robotics supplies from REI now? #rhrt: 10/22/08 21:04 nope #rhrt: 10/22/08 21:06 There was a bike rack on clearance at REI that I wanted to buy so I could carry packages in my bike. I ordered it and it came in today, but I rode my bike today, so I couldn't carry the packages back. #rhrt: 10/22/08 21:11 Ah, cool. #rhrt: 10/22/08 21:11 And somewhat ironic. kleinjt: 10/22/08 21:18 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/22/08 21:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/22/08 22:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/22/08 22:46 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/22/08 22:50 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/22/08 22:51 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 10/22/08 23:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/22/08 23:08 apparently the VT team that won in 2005 only used current sensor data and didn't store anything for later use #rhrt: 10/22/08 23:09 i would imagine that'd be the easiet strategy to start with #rhrt: 10/22/08 23:21 hey, what do you know, OpenCV has a cvFitLine, i'll have to give that a try at some point kleinjt: 10/22/08 23:26 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/23/08 00:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/23/08 00:52 this seems like a useful paper (i've only read the first two chapters, though): http://www.negenborn.net/kal_loc/ TheBrickWahl: 10/23/08 02:29 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/23/08 05:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/23/08 06:52 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 10/23/08 07:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/23/08 07:11 >< QUIT : Client Quit jboticsource: 10/23/08 08:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/23/08 08:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/23/08 09:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/23/08 09:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/23/08 10:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/23/08 10:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/23/08 10:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/23/08 11:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/23/08 11:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/23/08 11:56 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net jboticsource: 10/23/08 12:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/23/08 12:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/23/08 12:50 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/23/08 13:16 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/23/08 13:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/23/08 14:23 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/23/08 14:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/23/08 15:24 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/23/08 15:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/23/08 16:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/23/08 16:47 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 10/23/08 16:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/23/08 17:10 we've got a motor controller controller board made kleinjt: 10/23/08 17:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/23/08 17:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/23/08 17:56 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/23/08 19:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/23/08 19:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/23/08 19:37 whoo #rhrt: 10/23/08 19:50 is that how the whistles go? #rhrt: 10/23/08 19:57 Yes, yes it is. #rhrt: 10/23/08 19:57 sl andy753421: 10/23/08 20:33 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/23/08 20:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/23/08 21:38 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/23/08 21:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/23/08 22:12 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/23/08 22:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/23/08 23:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/24/08 01:07 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource1: 10/24/08 06:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/24/08 06:46 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource1: 10/24/08 09:03 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 10/24/08 09:40 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/24/08 09:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 10/24/08 09:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/24/08 10:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 10/24/08 11:10 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/24/08 12:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/24/08 12:34 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 10/24/08 12:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/24/08 12:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/24/08 12:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/24/08 12:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/24/08 13:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/24/08 13:13 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/24/08 13:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/24/08 13:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/24/08 13:50 >< PART #rhrt : Conra2: 10/24/08 14:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra2: 10/24/08 14:29 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/24/08 14:29 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) jboticsource: 10/24/08 14:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/24/08 15:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/24/08 15:32 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/24/08 15:42 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/24/08 15:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/24/08 17:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/24/08 18:16 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/24/08 19:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) tommost: 10/24/08 19:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/24/08 19:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/24/08 21:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 10/24/08 23:02 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 10/24/08 23:02 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net UdontKnow: 10/24/08 23:02 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net anarchy_ftw: 10/24/08 23:02 >< QUIT : simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 10/24/08 23:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/24/08 23:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt UdontKnow: 10/24/08 23:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt anarchy_ftw: 10/24/08 23:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/25/08 03:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/25/08 07:52 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/25/08 07:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/25/08 10:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/25/08 10:57 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Conra1: 10/25/08 11:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/25/08 11:23 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 10/25/08 11:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/25/08 12:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/25/08 13:00 >< PART #rhrt : Conra1: 10/25/08 13:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/25/08 13:00 >< PART #rhrt : Conra1: 10/25/08 13:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/25/08 13:00 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 10/25/08 13:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/25/08 14:37 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 10/25/08 16:03 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/25/08 16:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/25/08 16:10 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/25/08 16:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/25/08 17:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/25/08 17:22 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 10/25/08 18:24 woo, i sent a can mesg and the chip received it. Conra1: 10/25/08 21:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/25/08 21:02 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 10/25/08 21:29 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Conra1: 10/25/08 23:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/25/08 23:48 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/25/08 23:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 10/26/08 00:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/26/08 00:13 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 10/26/08 01:16 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 10/26/08 01:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 10/26/08 01:16 >< NICK : tommost jboticsource: 10/26/08 03:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/26/08 03:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource1: 10/26/08 03:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 10/26/08 08:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/26/08 08:41 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/26/08 09:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/26/08 11:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/26/08 12:02 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 10/26/08 13:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/26/08 13:22 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/26/08 13:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/26/08 13:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/26/08 13:34 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 10/26/08 13:37 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 10/26/08 13:48 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 10/26/08 13:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/26/08 13:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/26/08 13:51 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/26/08 13:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/26/08 13:54 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 10/26/08 14:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/26/08 14:46 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 10/26/08 15:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/26/08 17:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/26/08 17:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:41 kleinjt: was it *really* necessary to post a screenshot of the window instead of the actual allied part numbers? #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:42 allied even has an export to csv function. #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:43 kleinjt: I hate you so much. #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:43 tommost: What is it this time? :( #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:44 http://rhitrobotics.org/attachment/wiki/igvc/electronics-todo/Screenshot.png #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:45 tommost: eh? The order wasn #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:45 't ready. I just posted a screen shot so y'all could get a general idea of what it contained. #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:45 ACTION is unmoved #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:46 auchter: http://dpaste.com/86896/ #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:46 that's better. #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:47 Yes, much. #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:50 tommost: is there any way to make trac not bring me back to the main page when i log in? #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:50 Always access it through https. #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:50 ok #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:50 kleinjt: really? you used [[br]]'s for a list? #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:51 i thought you had some legitimate purpose for using them when you asked #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:51 ACTION is extremely angry #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:53 auchter: If you write me up a short guide to media wiki syntax I'll read it #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:53 short of that, I'll just go with whatever works #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:54 There are like 50 different examples of lists elsewhere on the wiki. #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:54 * list item #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:54 there was an example on the same page, even #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:54 yes #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:55 write me a ticket and I'll consider fixing it/reassigning it. #rhrt: 10/26/08 17:55 i already fixed it tommost: 10/26/08 17:58 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/26/08 17:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 10/26/08 18:15 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 10/26/08 18:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/26/08 18:55 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/26/08 19:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/26/08 20:01 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/26/08 20:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/26/08 20:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/26/08 22:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra1: 10/26/08 22:25 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 10/26/08 22:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/26/08 23:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/26/08 23:18 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/26/08 23:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra2: 10/27/08 00:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt Conra2: 10/27/08 00:14 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 10/27/08 00:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 10/27/08 00:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 10/27/08 00:47 awesome, Atmel makes a pin compatible part to the atmega168 with 32kb of flash memory and 2kb of ram. We've got plenty of room to spare. #rhrt: 10/27/08 00:47 oh cool, what's the part number? #rhrt: 10/27/08 00:48 atmega328p, it isn't really in stock anywere, but I read an article of somebody distributing them with the arduino bootloader #rhrt: 10/27/08 00:48 the p is just part of the picopower line, meaning it can get crazy low idle currents and run down to 1.8V #rhrt: 10/27/08 00:48 neat. i really doubt we'll need that much room #rhrt: 10/27/08 00:49 yeah, but it is an awesome chip kleinjt: 10/27/08 00:55 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/27/08 01:30 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/27/08 01:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/27/08 02:00 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 10/27/08 07:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/27/08 07:57 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/27/08 08:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 10/27/08 08:54 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/27/08 08:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/27/08 09:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 10/27/08 09:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/27/08 10:57 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 10/27/08 11:01 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 10/27/08 11:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/27/08 11:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/27/08 11:48 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 10/27/08 11:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/27/08 12:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/27/08 12:32 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource1: 10/27/08 12:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 10/27/08 12:58 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 10/27/08 12:59 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 10/27/08 13:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 10/27/08 13:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/27/08 13:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 10/27/08 13:48 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 10/27/08 13:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 10/27/08 14:17 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 10/27/08 14:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/27/08 14:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/27/08 14:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 10/27/08 14:46 auchter: made the single layer layout of the can board less crappy and committed it, here is maybe a way to tile gerber files: http://gbtiler.sourceforge.net/gbtiler-manual-2p0.html #rhrt: 10/27/08 14:47 s/made/I made/ #rhrt: 10/27/08 14:48 ok, cool, i'll look at it in a bit #rhrt: 10/27/08 14:48 http://rafb.net/p/a5a9uE36.html #rhrt: 10/27/08 14:48 there's the digikey order, anything else? #rhrt: 10/27/08 14:54 I can't think of anything. I paid off the PCB and there is another more updated version of the can board on SVN. #rhrt: 10/27/08 14:54 ok. jboticsource: 10/27/08 15:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/27/08 15:14 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 10/27/08 17:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 10/27/08 17:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 10/27/08 18:00 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 10/27/08 18:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt tom